drotto Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 5/23/2023 at 7:13 AM, media_junkie said: Not a surprise to me, Rotten Tomatoes is gaming the system for Disney. Has happened before will happen again. Fully realize that, but rarely do they let one slip that is so obvious. Granted how a reviewer would say this and then give it a 3/5 is puzzling also. (I know reviewer afraid of losing access and privileges) Edited May 23, 2023 by drotto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Larryw7, media_junkie and Buzzetta 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChillMan Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I swear...people believe what they're spoon-fed. Media stories are still saying Harley Quinn is an Academy Award performance...pre-release 'rumors' were that WW 2 and Shazam 2 are fantastic...and of course Aquaman 2 with jacked Momoa, jacked Wilson, and jacked Mateen II sucks LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Indiana Jones 5 to open at $60 million for the weekend.--- Deadline For a movie that cost $300 million to produce (and probably another 150 to 200 to market) a $60 million domestic opening is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 9:10 PM, media_junkie said: Indiana Jones 5 to open at $60 million for the weekend.--- Deadline For a movie that cost $300 million to produce (and probably another 150 to 200 to market) a $60 million domestic opening is horrible. What kind of teenager wants to see a movie starring an 80 year old? D84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I remember when Indiana Jones movies broke box office records. SkOw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelrod Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 8:32 AM, drotto said: Fully realize that, but rarely do they let one slip that is so obvious. Granted how a reviewer would say this and then give it a 3/5 is puzzling also. (I know reviewer afraid of losing access and privileges) I mean, if the actual review was a 3/5 then Rotten Tomatoes should be giving it a "Fresh" rating by their own standards. It's a little weird they would pick a representative quote out of the review that makes it sound unfavorable, but that's a different issue (and certainly not one caused by them gaming the system in favor of Disney). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 7:10 AM, media_junkie said: Indiana Jones 5 to open at $60 million for the weekend.--- Deadline For a movie that cost $300 million to produce (and probably another 150 to 200 to market) a $60 million domestic opening is horrible. Some people have it tracking a bit higher in the $75 to $110 million opening range. Still would be a brutal opening for a movie with a $300 million budget and likely a $150 if not more marketing spend. This movie is looking at a minimum of $800 million (possible more) as a break even point. Makes it hard to get there even if it manages the high end of early projections of $110 million. It would need legs for weeks at any of these openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 9:39 AM, drotto said: Some people have it tracking a bit higher in the $75 to $110 million opening range. Still would be a brutal opening for a movie with a $300 million budget and likely a $150 if not more marketing spend. This movie is looking at a minimum of $800 million (possible more) as a break even point. Makes it hard to get there even if it manages the high end of early projections of $110 million. It would need legs for weeks at any of these openings. As you posted before, budgets are out of control. Of the summer 'blockbusters' so far released: GOTG will show a profit, Fast X will not, TLM will not, S-M:A the S-V will, Transformers will not. The next three: Flash, Elemental, Indy do not look promising for the studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 This move does have something that many other movies do not, which is a powerful IP and fees drawn in for merchandising. Hasbro and Lego probably re-upped their toy licenses every year since the industry learned from the Kenner mistake of letting it lapse. (Assuming everyone knows that story) With media support there are already ample sales with related merchandise where even if the movie is a loss the merchandising sales can make up for some of it where Indiana Jones as a property is still valuable if that makes any sense. Keep buying those 6” figures… they cost more than a movie ticket. 😂 bentbryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/10/2023 at 1:00 PM, Buzzetta said: This move does have something that many other movies do not, which is a powerful IP and fees drawn in for merchandising. Hasbro and Lego probably re-upped their toy licenses every year since the industry learned from the Kenner mistake of letting it lapse. (Assuming everyone knows that story) With media support there are already ample sales with related merchandise where even if the movie is a loss the merchandising sales can make up for some of it where Indiana Jones as a property is still valuable if that makes any sense. Keep buying those 6” figures… they cost more than a movie ticket. 😂 But big numbers require repeat viewings. If the reviews are accurate, the nostalgia crowd is not going to be seeing this movie multiple times, and I am not sure where this film attracts new younger viewers. Remember this is a fanbase that has already been burned once with Crystal Skull. As for toys, I never remember Indy being a big kids toy line, and I was the prime audience when this movie first came out. I just do not see the merchandise saving this film. They may make up a bit, but it did not save Disney Star Wars where the toys are languishing in the discount bins and landfills all over the world, and Star Wars redefined what licensing IP's meant at one point. Brandon Shepherd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marvelcollector Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 I was never a fan of this franchise, but they really must be joking with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Shepherd Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 What does it cost to go see a movie today? I really want to give this film a chance but I’m not feeling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 11:35 AM, Brandon Shepherd said: What does it cost to go see a movie today? I really want to give this film a chance but I’m not feeling it. Depends where you are and how you want to see it... And who is showing it... for example AMC upcharges $2 more a ticket if you want to be in the center aisle instead of the left or right wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Shepherd Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 10:10 AM, Buzzetta said: Depends where you are and how you want to see it... And who is showing it... for example AMC upcharges $2 more a ticket if you want to be in the center aisle instead of the left or right wings. I haven’t been to a movie theater since Wonder Woman (2017). From what I hear now, seems like buying a movie ticket is like buying a concert ticket, with pre-sales, assigned seating and bunch of other bs. Is there still a box office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 How worried is Disney about this film? Apparently, they are having a select critics screening in California. I am assuming this meaning they are inviting people they think are more apt to give favorable reviews to counteract the negativity that was crated by the initial showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 I got my June 28th prescreen pass to see this, but it is ways out in time and place. Lord Willing. I "think" this will be the 1st to ever see in theaters, as we were a blockbuster vhs family mostly as a kid. Kingdom Skull was dvd as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 8:01 AM, Cat said: What kind of teenager wants to see a movie starring an 80 year old? Did you say "movie" or country? Either way, I don't know the answer. Cat and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
