Please post positive feedback about the new case here.

[Chaseman210]

The look and feel of the new cases in hand are great. The other issues, not so much.

[1Cool]

In before the lock

 

[Sqeggs]

Please tell me the one thread asking for positive stuff about the slabs is not going to be left alone. I'm not interested in just the good in the same way I don't want only the bad. Post up all the books you get back in the "What I Got Back From CGC section". Let's visually see the good and the bad and go from there. If you get 2 books that are ugly out of 20 - show all 20. It's the only way we get the whole picture.

 

Well, how about this. I've been submitting -- directly and indirectly -- to CGC since shortly after they opened their doors. So I own and I've bought and sold thousands of their slabs. (I realize there are many, many people who could say the same thing.)

 

I've certainly seen Newton rings on the old cases, but I believe that only a minority of them had them -- a small minority.

 

Are there any of the new slabs that don't have Newton rings? Thousands of new slabs are out there by now.

 

If ringless new slabs exist, could people post examples in this thread? I think that would be a positive step.

 

[grayzr]

Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

[Vger7]

it is built like a tank and comparing it to older cases or other cases, the sturdiness is quite noticeable

Has anybody tried shipping one with inadequate packaging? Is it significantly less prone to cracking? If so, that is a major plus.

 

one of the pics in the previous thread was a set of 3 books that Fedex screwed up and damaged the box they were shipped in.

 

Fedex took the books and the cracked plastic and threw them in a new box.

 

I sent them back to CGC. None of the books were damaged. I'm confident that if the books were in the old case, they would not have survived the damage.

 

here's one of them

 

I thought they fired that FedEx guy that threw the flat screen over the gate?

 

That's brutal. FedEx is not the only culprit:

 

[cheta42]

Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

 

So let me get this straight now,

We have "old label goodness",

And then we have 'old newer label goodness",

And current label aka "oh my goodness...what have they done"

Am I correct

 

[Comicdey]

I was bummed I didn't get new slabs on my final submission to CGC.

 

Now I'm happy I didn't. I'm also happy I didn't sub a ton as they are still grading a step too tight in general from their norm.

 

9.4 is the new 9.6

 

9.6 is the new 9.8

 

9.8 is the old 9.8,9.9,10.0.

 

I do love the new slab clarity and I purchased two books early to check em out. No major halo or waves at this point but nwih I'm subbing GA til they get it handled.

[jsilverjanet]

That's my line

[Mijael.Levy]

Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

 

I am worried because new slabs will sold for less and this will affect GPA data . GPA data doesnt care if its new or old , so my books will decrease in value .

[Key Largo Comics]

Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

 

I am worried because new slabs will sold for less and this will affect GPA data . GPA data doesnt care if its new or old , so my books will decrease in value .

Works both ways. Older and "non" CGC slabs may very well begin selling for a premium leaving GPA data relatively unaffected.

[JazzMan]

I love waves...

 

[___]

That beach boys song just keeps coming to my head

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Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

 

So let me get this straight now,

We have "old label goodness",

And then we have 'old newer label goodness",

And current label aka "oh my goodness...what have they done"

Am I correct

 

[Ghost Town]

Another positive about the new case is that it might cause a premium for old slabs (not sure if this has already started) thus increasing the value of all books in the older holders. Thanks CGC I have about 300 old slabs cant wait

 

So let me get this straight now,

We have "old label goodness",

And then we have 'old newer label goodness",

And current label aka "oh my goodness...what have they done"

Am I correct

This could be the post of the year.

[MusterMark]

I've been called a cheerleader before for being a fan of the new cases. That's fine by me.

 

I own almost a dozen of the new cases and I am thrilled with each of them. They are rock solid in construction and feel quite a bit more substantial and well-made than the older cases. I like how the comic appears to float inside the case. It makes it easy to spot flaws that were more difficult to detect through the older design. The biggest surprise is that I actually like the new label. At first, I was very upset that they were changing the design of the label, but I adapted very quickly to the new look. My favorite thing is the way the variant notations or special notations are in bold print and centered under the title on the label. It looks a lot cleaner than having the notation at the far left or right side of the label. I actually like the larger grade and the page quality designation in the grade window. There is also a lot more room for signature notations. The yellow label, for some reason, looks absolutely fantastic, and I like the way that the label is anchored within the case. No more falling down.

 

I'm also glad they went with Mylar. It's the best choice for paper preservation, in my somewhat informed opinion (I read a lot). Absence of a well protects against SCS.

 

There are a few complaints, but that is not what this thread was designed to address. In the end, however, I detected just as many serious problems with the 2nd gen as the new design. I'll have to wait for more information (and solid data) before making a final judgement, but I have no issues sending submissions at this time. Granted, I'm in no hurry to reholder my entire collection, but I don't see a problem with continuing to slab the moderns (all I collect at this time, even though it hasn't always been that way).

 

I have some very strong opinions about the things that were going on over in the original case thread. When I said I was leaving the thread, I meant it. Never posted again.

 

But I think some very good and sharp criticisms regarding the new design were getting cluttered with assumptions made under panic, pseudo-scientific speak, outright shills at times, lies, misrepresentation, and all kinds of negative energy. What began as a helpful dialogue basically broke down into the same dozen or so people repeating the same things over and over again..."I can't believe they are ignoring us...I can't believe they are not doing anything...they said we are the problem..." all kinds of untrue stuff. Then people started pounding the company and dragging the reputations of specific employees through the mud.

 

And then people wonder why the thread was tossed? Incredible.

 

I think the CGC did listen and I think they are trying to improve their product. They left the thread open far longer than any of us thought. I think they deserve a little bit of honest credit.

 

But I don't want to get dragged down into another discussion. I apologize.

 

Here are my ratings for the new case:

 

1. Overall design: A - (may go much lower if the creep engine theory is substantiated by time)

2. Label design: B+

3. Protection: A (again, this assumes that the case design is not inherently flawed in a manner that would actually damage the books inside - ala the creep engine theory).

4. Clarity: B - (Newton rings are a still a distraction in one out of 12 of my new slabs, even after the "fix" was ordered, would be A+ if Newton Rings were totally eliminated)

5. Fit and finish: C+ (all of mine look wonderful, but I've seen a lot of boo-boos in the wild).

 

Here they are for 2nd gen

 

1. Overall design: B+

2. Label design: A -

3. Protection: B -

4. Clarity: B -

5. Fit and finish: C

 

Get rid of the Newton rings completely (probably impossible or too cost prohibitive due to light physics) and completely prove that the design is totally safe and you have a home-run with the new cases. It's ALMOST there.

 

That's my honest opinions. I'm wearing my flamesuit so do your worst if you must.

 

Here are a few scans of my new acquisitions. I think they look super nice. Click on the spoiler tab.

 

 

 

 

 

Newshane: Could you please post scans of the Back Covers of these same books?

I would like to see books with NO Newton Rings. I really would.

I have about 30 new slabs in hand, all with Newton Rings (especially on Back Covers) and all with Waviness.

And beyond that, I have seen Dozens of new slabs online, all of which have Newton Rings - it is possible that a few of them had no Newton Rings and maybe I just missed that.

 

So it would be really nice to see slabs with no Newton Rings. Thus, if possible, please provide the scans - it will be like a breath of fresh air.

 

 

 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

I have about 30 new slabs in hand, all with Newton Rings (especially on Back Covers) and all with Waviness.

 

Could you post pictures of some of the books with waves?

[Artboy99]

 

Could you post pictures of some of the books with waves?

 

I have 3 books in the new slabs, they all have newton rings of various degrees of severity ( some more than others ) but all 3 books have the waviness.

 

[jsilverjanet]

This CGC case has people posting who rarely post

[Artboy99]

To those that have books with the waviness:

 

Is it across all ages of books?

 

My books are silver age and bronze age.

I have seen images with the waviness on Golden age, I am wondering if it occurs in the modern books as well?

 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

I have seen images with the waviness on Golden age, I am wondering if it occurs in the modern books as well?

 

Yes. Here's one of many examples: