BLACK ADAM starring Dwayne Johnson (TBD) 7 7

[Jaydogrules]

On 12/7/2022 at 3:35 PM, Gatsby77 said:

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Lifetime domestic Home Entertainment & Streaming is listed as $86 million, not $200 million.

I'm talking about domestic and international.  

Meaningless garbage numbers that they completely made up trying to make this turkey fly.  

They are getting absolutely torched on Twitter for it.  

Rightly so.

-J.

[D84]

On 12/7/2022 at 5:26 PM, Bosco685 said:

That's not what paperheart was noting if you stepped back and reflected on the question.

Deadline's analysis was breaking down all the categories of the studio balance sheet how it will also lead to profit. There was never any question if the theatrical part of it was the greenfield it needed.

I got it now.

The reason I never saw it was I read what you quoted here and didn't click on the article. 

It was a senior moment. 

[Bosco685]

On 12/7/2022 at 6:38 PM, Jaydogrules said:

I'm talking about domestic and international.  

Meaningless garbage numbers that they completely made up trying to make this turkey fly.  

They are getting absolutely torched on Twitter for it.  

Rightly so.

-J.

You have to be careful there with facts.

Many of the tweets are people responding to the headline or like what happened in here misinterpreting the balance sheet. To which people are then posting the balance sheet to point out their misinterpretation.

-B.

[Gatsby77]

On 12/7/2022 at 6:53 PM, Bosco685 said:

You have to be careful there with facts.

Many of the tweets are people responding to the headline or like what happened in here misinterpreting the balance sheet. To which people are then posting the balance sheet to point out their misinterpretation.

-B.

All of which misses the point.

Such a detailed defense of "but it will make a profit eventually through lifetime streaming rentals and domestic & international licensing" wouldn't be necessary if the film had simply...performed in the theater.

The very crux of "Methinks ye doth protest too much."

It's also an admission that WB will lose money on the film *this year* as it depends on future licensing fees to eventually break even & turn this projected profit.

[Bosco685]

On 12/7/2022 at 7:11 PM, Gatsby77 said:

All of which misses the point.

Such a detailed defense of "but it will make a profit eventually through lifetime streaming rentals and domestic & international licensing" wouldn't be necessary if the film had simply...performed in the theater.

The very crux of "Methinks ye doth protest too much."

It's also an admission that WB will lose money on the film *this year* as it depends on future licensing fees to eventually break even & turn this projected profit.

It will be interesting if this moves forward

 

[Sauce Dog]

On 12/7/2022 at 7:25 PM, Bosco685 said:

It will be interesting if this moves forward

 

Hope it happens...and if ends up with profits equal to its name sake, Seven Bucks, it will tie with Black Adam!

[Cat]

On 12/8/2022 at 10:25 AM, Bosco685 said:

It will be interesting if this moves forward

 

I'd love to see this. Even better if they include some lesser known JSAers who they've got no intention of ever using on film, but fine without them. You can easily use material from his Geoff Johns run of solo comics, as mostly drawn by Rags Morales. Set it in St Roch, have him be the head archaeologist, introduce Kendra Saunders as a troubled individual, it could be great. It can't be worse then their portrayal in Legends Of Tomorrow. 

[D84]

On 12/7/2022 at 6:25 PM, Bosco685 said:

It will be interesting if this moves forward

 

🤞

[Jaydogrules]

On 12/7/2022 at 4:11 PM, Gatsby77 said:

All of which misses the point.

Such a detailed defense of "but it will make a profit eventually through lifetime streaming rentals and domestic & international licensing" wouldn't be necessary if the film had simply...performed in the theater.

The very crux of "Methinks ye doth protest too much."

It's also an admission that WB will lose money on the film *this year* as it depends on future licensing fees to eventually break even & turn this projected profit.

Bingo. 

Hyper exaggerated speculative nonsense that has absolutely no realistic chance of ever actually happening based particularly on the "home video" revenues for prior  recent DC films as reported by the Numbers, et al.  This is the same "creative accounting" the same author used to also spin the under performing Shazam into a massive blockbuster.   That was also , notably , the last year that deadline published their "derby".

Or, in other words, nothing but wishful thinking today so that Dwayne doesn't look like the one man DC flop machine that he is. 

-J.

Edited December 8, 2022 by Jaydogrules

[Gatsby77]

On 12/7/2022 at 8:17 PM, Jaydogrules said:

 Or, in other words, nothing but wishful thinking today so that Dwayne doesn't look like the one man DC flop machine that he is. 

You're not wrong about The Rock getting dragged on his tweet about this.

The top response notes that Captain America's $370 million in 2011 is equivalent to $490 million today. And then there's the ones like this:

[Gatsby77]

To be clear, I'd watch the mess out of a Hawk World HBO Max series.

Edited December 8, 2022 by Gatsby77

[Bosco685]

On 12/7/2022 at 7:38 PM, Cat said:

I'd love to see this. Even better if they include some lesser known JSAers who they've got no intention of ever using on film, but fine without them. You can easily use material from his Geoff Johns run of solo comics, as mostly drawn by Rags Morales. Set it in St Roch, have him be the head archaeologist, introduce Kendra Saunders as a troubled individual, it could be great. It can't be worse then their portrayal in Legends Of Tomorrow. 

Now that would be an interesting path to build out a Hawkman story path.

Legends brought quite a few characters forward. But once it became a CW soap opera, it became a real challenge to engage with the show.

[comic_memories]

On 12/7/2022 at 8:40 PM, Gatsby77 said:

You're not wrong about The Rock getting dragged on his tweet about this.

The top response notes that Captain America's $370 million in 2011 is equivalent to $490 million today. And then there's the ones like this:

 

Yup and the first Avenger had a budget of 140 million. In his trying to rationalize a comparison that movie was successful compared to his.  The film made up for more than a third of its production cost on DVD sales alone. It was very profitable. 

[Bosco685]

On 12/8/2022 at 12:44 PM, comic_memories said:

Yup and the first Avenger had a budget of 140 million. In his trying to rationalize a comparison that movie was successful compared to his.  The film made up for more than a third of its production cost on DVD sales alone. It was very profitable. 

Captain America: The First Avenger?

It did 2.6x production budget at the box office, which is breakeven. And let's not forget Paramount Pictures was taking 8% off the top on the early Marvel Studios movies (10% off on Iron Man).

Paramount extends deal with Marvel

Either home theater factors in or it doesn't. Not a good look to dismiss it for Black Adam ahead of time, and then factor it in for Cap 1.

Edited December 8, 2022 by Bosco685

[The Commissioner]

Any word on when this will be on HBO Max? Didn't get around to seeing this in theaters.

[Gatsby77]

On 12/8/2022 at 3:16 PM, The Commissioner said:

Any word on when this will be on HBO Max? Didn't get around to seeing this in theaters.

Next Friday (Dec. 16).

[media_junkie]

On 12/8/2022 at 3:27 PM, Gatsby77 said:

Next Friday (Dec. 16).

That was quick, or at least it feels quick.

[Sauce Dog]

Oh man, I'm loving this sad, weird ride. I believe it, it's just silly enough to be true in these wild times.
 

 

[kimik]

But the film was a financial success........................for the Rock 

[Sauce Dog]

On 12/12/2022 at 7:49 PM, kimik said:

But the film was a financial success........................for the Rock 

At least we FINALLY know what exactly the Rock was cooking; the books!