jsilverjanet Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Based on Loki’s speed he’s as fast as Captain America or was that magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muno42 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 He's Asgardian. That should put him easily above human in strength and speed. Maybe not taser resistance, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Quote Speaking recently in an exclusive interview with Screen Rant, di Martino addressed the different theories surrounding her character’s true identity. According to her, Loki’s Sylvie is really an original character, which draws inspiration from several different points in the comics. That means there likely isn’t any big twist coming regarding who Sylvie is, and that she’s simply what she seems to be – a Loki variant from a different branch of the timeline. Read di Martino’s full quote below. "The character is Sylvie and she's her own character. The show is inspired by the comics and by lots of different things in the comics, but our story is a brand new story and a new backstory for Sylvie." In the comics, Sylvie Lushton is an ordinary girl from Oklahoma who wakes up one day with magical Asgardian powers. She takes the superhero name Enchantress, journeys to New York, and eventually joins the Young Avengers. However, it’s later revealed that her powers were granted to her by an incantation from Loki, and that he was using her for his own nefarious means. It’s even hinted that Sylvie may have been entirely created by Loki somehow, and that her memories are false. Edited June 25, 2021 by Bosco685 Muno42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Muno42 said: Maybe not taser resistance, but still. nmtg9, Muno42 and Bosco685 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Loki's episodes are overlong. I find myself bored for stretches. Episode 3 had the best content of any MCU episode so far, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I fell asleep watching the 3rd episode and I really don't like the pacing of the show. The fight scenes are ok but in general Owen Wilson is the only saving grace. jsilverjanet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, 1Cool said: I really don't like the pacing of the show. I don't like the pacing of any of the three Disney Plus shows. An MCU movie feels like a roller coaster, whereas the shows so far feel like riding a bus. They're fine, they're just not thrilling. D84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 There's simply too much uninteresting filler. The part where Loki is singing is 'filler', but fun. Then you have the filler when you have the same spats with Sylvie that have already been said 10 f^&*ing times. These episodes could be cut by 10-15 minutes and lose nothing important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Like I said about "Falcon and the Winter Soldier," it can be cut to a decent 2 hour movie. There's too much to pad the runtime. jsilverjanet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, D84 said: Like I said about "Falcon and the Winter Soldier," it can be cut to a decent 2 hour movie. There's too much to pad the runtime. But then we wouldn't get the 7-8 minutes of credits to recognize all the international contributions HighVoltage, theCapraAegagrus and D84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Steve Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 12:25 PM, Bosco685 said: I wonder if that is because it’s the closest they can get to the enchantress without getting sued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Westy Steve said: I wonder if that is because it’s the closest they can get to the enchantress without getting sued. Who could sue them? That name is pretty generic, and given that both Marvel and DC have been using the name for decades I'm guessing that neither has any trademark on it. And I'd be surprised if they could ever get one since the word has been used in fantasy fiction long before either company started using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) On 6/17/2021 at 9:16 AM, fantastic_four said: Looking up the origin of this version of Enchantress I see she was created by Loki, so maybe they merged the two characters together for the MCU. Last week's episode combined with reading more about both Enchantress and Lady Loki has me thinking this is the angle they were going for. Enchantress and Lady Loki are pretty similar to begin with in that they're both female tricksters much like Loki so I don't see that we need them both, and to name her "Sylvie Laufeydottir" (see the screenshot below from last episode) is an explicit mix of the two character's names together into a single one. Sylvie is the name of the modern Enchantress, and "Laufeydottir" is Norse for daughter of Laufey, who was the frost giant from the first Thor movie who is Loki's father. Loki's full name is shown on a similar TVA report in the first episode to be Laufeyson i.e. son of Laufey, and Thor's last name in the comics is Odinson. The main element Enchantress has in the comics that I haven't yet seen evidence Lady Loki has is her penchant for seducing powerful men with her beauty, but I doubt they ever do that in the MCU given this new Victorian age of political correctness we're in anyway. Edited June 28, 2021 by fantastic_four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 9 hours ago, D84 said: Like I said about "Falcon and the Winter Soldier," it can be cut to a decent 2 hour movie. There's too much to pad the runtime. It has become clear all these shows are two to three hour movies that have been stretched. D84, Bosco685, adampasz and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickSp Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 20 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: There's simply too much uninteresting filler. The part where Loki is singing is 'filler', but fun. Then you have the filler when you have the same spats with Sylvie that have already been said 10 f^&*ing times. These episodes could be cut by 10-15 minutes and lose nothing important. This is exactly why I really didn't enjoy Ep 3. It was the same confrontation over and over. I'll enjoy it more when it gets back to the mystery of the TVA and where it links to the other goings on in the MCU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I'm enjoying the show, its got a lot of fun little parts and well worth watching. But it's not exactly blowing me away with excitement either. Hoping it picks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 6 hours ago, RickSp said: This is exactly why I really didn't enjoy Ep 3. It was the same confrontation over and over. I'll enjoy it more when it gets back to the mystery of the TVA and where it links to the other goings on in the MCU. I was looking forward to this, I LOVE Hiddleston, but I agree, it's boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, skypinkblu said: I was looking forward to this, I LOVE Hiddleston, but I agree, it's boring. I felt bad admitting I was dosing off during parts of episode 2 and doing a little internet surfing during 3. Hiddleston is great as Loki, I wanted this to be the show that blew me away, so far its a nice distraction, but nothing more. adampasz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adampasz Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I agree. The show isn't pulling me in. I tried rewatching some of Episode 1, but soon I switched over to the latest Rick & Morty, which holds attention attention much better even on repeat viewings. It boils down to screenwriting 101: well-defined characters and stakes. In Rick & Morty, the characters are constantly expressing their fears, desires, and anxieties. Motivations and relationships are always extremely clear, even as the characters careen from one absurd situation to the next. In Loki, despite that actors' best efforts, I just don't feel connected. Maybe it's because a lot of the story centers around them observing events from the outside. For example, re-watching the Odin farewell scene in episode 1, from Hiddleston's facial expressions, I get that he is feeling big emotions, but the -script doesn't inform me of how this impacts and changes him. Terry Gilliam's Brazil presents a similar story and setting, but it always has a strong sense of narrative drive. In Brazil, nearly every action is driven by the hero's desire to rescue his dream girl because she represents freedom from the mundane, bureaucratic world. His choices lead him down a very clear, decisive (albeit misguided) path. What is Loki's relationship to Sylvie? While the actors did a good job establishing there is some sense of chemistry and personal connection, I'm not getting much from the story and dialogue. Is he trying to escape from her? Befriend her? Seduce her? Capture her? Prove he is the superior trickster? I get that maybe he is conflicted, and wants all of these things, but from scene-to-scene and moment-to-moment, it is often not clear what he's trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TupennyConan Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, adampasz said: Terry Gilliam's Brazil presents a similar story and setting, but it always has a strong sense of narrative drive. In Brazil, nearly every action is driven by the hero's desire to rescue his dream girl because she represents freedom from the mundane, bureaucratic world. His choices lead him down a very clear, decisive (albeit misguided) path. What is Loki's relationship to Sylvie? While the actors did a good job establishing there is some sense of chemistry and personal connection, I'm not getting much from the story and dialogue. Is he trying to escape from her? Befriend her? Seduce her? Capture her? Prove he is the superior trickster? I get that maybe he is conflicted, and wants all of these things, but from scene-to-scene and moment-to-moment, it is often not clear what he's trying to achieve. I haven't seen Brazil since its debut. When did you last see it? I am curious if it deserves its fine reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
