theCapraAegagrus Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, The Lions Den said: This thread is beginning to have a familiar tone... Wait a minute... Is CGC about to be destroyed!? Is Magneto about to team up with Doctor Doom!? The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, The Lions Den said: This thread is beginning to have a familiar tone... I agree. You would think that we were talking about a pair of AF15's being graded or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, alohaboyz said: Of course i know this would happen. This IS A CGC forum. But i want to give CGC a fair shot at explaining the strange events with this submission. If they do, it won't be on a public forum, but in direct communication with you. Wondering if I'm the only one wanting 'revenge' for having wasted time reading this thread. Edited February 11, 2021 by namisgr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, nickdrizzle said: yes, i do. no one wants to harass your wife/kids. i think we are all interested to see how you handle/store your cards and what you do with them... answered your the only one that made a comment of ethics. why havent anyone else answered yet. I have no problem sharing the video channels if everyone can be ethical and not bother or harass them. here a screen shot. Edited February 11, 2021 by alohaboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted February 11, 2021 Administrator Share Posted February 11, 2021 Hello Alohaboyz, Your invoice was graded on 11/30/2020. It then went onto the research cart for some cards that were not in our database, which can indeed cause a delay. The delay that was incurred was not normal, and was 100% CGC's fault, and I apologize for that. But the wild accusation that CGC "took revenge" on you is completely out of line. It is also disputed by the fact that the invoice was graded in late November, well before you were inquiring about it. You have my email, as we talked about this invoice on January 15th. Next time, please just reach out to me directly with your issues and I will be happy to assist. Thank you, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaulS. said: Hello Alohaboyz, Your invoice was graded on 11/30/2020. It then went onto the research cart for some cards that were not in our database, which can indeed cause a delay. The delay that was incurred was not normal, and was 100% CGC's fault, and I apologize for that. But the wild accusation that CGC "took revenge" on you is completely out of line. It is also disputed by the fact that the invoice was graded in late November, well before you were inquiring about it. You have my email, as we talked about this invoice on January 15th. Next time, please just reach out to me directly with your issues and I will be happy to assist. Thank you, Paul are you available to talk on the phone now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, nickdrizzle said: yes, i do. no one wants to harass your wife/kids. i think we are all interested to see how you handle/store your cards and what you do with them... answered my wife and kids spend a lot of time making nice videos of CGC reveals. Graphics , music , all good for CGC. Edited February 11, 2021 by alohaboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted February 11, 2021 Administrator Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, alohaboyz said: are you available to talk on the phone now? Sure, just call the normal customer service line and ask for me. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 please give me the number i will call in 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator PaulS. Posted February 11, 2021 Administrator Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, alohaboyz said: please give me the number i will call in 5 minutes. 1-877-NM-COMIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 minute ago, alohaboyz said: please give me the number i will call in 5 minutes. Hours (Monday to Friday): 9:00am to 5:00pm EST 1-877-NM-COMIC (1 877 662 6642) toll free PaulS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron Churches Posted February 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2021 Paul handled that a little more diplomatically than I would have, lol. PaulS., theCapraAegagrus, Wymon and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Buzzetta said: I agree. You would think that we were talking about a pair of AF15's being graded or something. HAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Churches Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Seriously, though. The grades were logged before it got researched and it would bear logic that the grading was done around the same time as some of his other bulk orders, which erodes the central argument that they shafted him to retaliate. Sounds like he just had a bunch of 8-9s instead of 9-9.5s in that batch. He might be able to show some statistical skew, but a sample size of 10 submissions isn't likely to be enough to really say. I think Aloha needs to send in a few dozen more bulk batches so we can see more data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just now, Ron Churches said: Seriously, though. The grades were logged before it got researched and it would bear logic that the grading was done around the same time as some of his other bulk orders, which erodes the central argument that they shafted him to retaliate. Sounds like he just had a bunch of 8-9s instead of 9-9.5s in that batch. He might be able to show some statistical skew, but a sample size of 10 submissions isn't likely to be enough to really say. I think Aloha needs to send in a few dozen more bulk batches so we can see more data. What it sounds like (t0 me) is that there were two lead graders in the room handling different batches and the grades were consistent with a +/- .5 subjective rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vheflin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 so any grade that disappoints can now be called a 'revenge' grade? e.g. I sent in this VF (all day long) Giggle Comics #3 and it came back revenge grade 1.8!!! Keys_Collector and thehumantorch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) Talk to Paul. Solved in a fair manner as usual. To all you posting, Step back and see both sides. Then you get a more clear picture. Props to Paul again. ====================================================================================== On a side note (not related to CGC) educate yourself: . A BGS submitter had his "chrome" cards sitting in the BGS storage for serval months. When he got his card back, all the grade were very low with the subs on surface bring down the overall grade. What he noticed, is the surface on many cards were "fogged", what most likely happened was the cards somehow got stored in a humid part of the facility which caused the problem. People that actually grade cards understand what humidity does to chrome cards. There is a lot of factors that effect cards that many here do not understand. that is why i do not like cards sitting longer than needed. Only bad things happed if cards sit around. Next time you post, have more experience with submissions. Edited February 11, 2021 by alohaboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alohaboyz Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Ron Churches said: Seriously, though. The grades were logged before it got researched and it would bear logic that the grading was done around the same time as some of his other bulk orders, which erodes the central argument that they shafted him to retaliate. Sounds like he just had a bunch of 8-9s instead of 9-9.5s in that batch. He might be able to show some statistical skew, but a sample size of 10 submissions isn't likely to be enough to really say. I think Aloha needs to send in a few dozen more bulk batches so we can see more data. Just going on what i had experienced in the past multiple subs from the same collection. Also, been using grading companies a Long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraldfordfan69 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, alohaboyz said: Talk to Paul. Solved in a fair manner as usual. To all you posting, Step back and see both sides. Then you get a more clear picture. Props to Paul again. ====================================================================================== On a side note (not related to CGC) educate yourself: . A BGS submitter had his "chrome" cards sitting in the BGS storage for serval months. When he got his card back, all the grade were very low with the subs on surface bring down the overall grade. What he noticed, is the surface on many cards were "fogged", what most likely happened was the cards somehow got stored in a humid part of the facility which caused the problem. People that actually grade cards understand what humidity does to chrome cards. There is a lot of factors that effect cards that many here do not understand. that is why i do not like cards sitting longer than needed. Only bad things happed if cards sit around. Next time you post, have more experience with submissions. Yeah, no. Your a legit diva. I wish CGC would blacklist people. Crying on the message boards as a grown man is pathetic. I wish CGC would realize that your business is pretty irrelevant and had some balls to kick you to the curve. Your behavior is unacceptable and shouldnt be tolerated. LordSherman, Keys_Collector, bulldog1986 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...