onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:01 AM, aardvark88 said: the Action 1 of resealed videotapes Thought this was actually between : 3. Tales From the QuadeaD Zone Highest sale $3,500 2. The Great American Bash Highest sale just under $6,000 1. ( if you believe this wasn't money laundering or came with some of whatever the purchasers favorite choice of drug) Several of the " Black Diamond " Disney VHS tapes . Beauty and the Beast. Mulan Etc.. Highest sales $15,000 (But many higher asking prices.) If only they were true sales. Spoiler aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buzzetta Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:57 AM, Dark Knight said: I dunno what's worst.. The content of this video or Onlyfans being banned starting on Oct. Don't even get me started. I was about to take my used shoe sales to the next level. onlyweaknesskryptonite, Larryw7, MatterEaterLad and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 2:07 AM, Buzzetta said: Don't even get me started. I was about to take my used shoe sales to the next level. You can always create NFT's of them. I hear those are doing really well. Dark Knight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 3:17 AM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said: You can always create NFT's of them. I hear those are doing really well. It was actually the idea of a friend of mine that knows about the end of the year shoe sales. She said, two pairs of feet, inflatable pool, chocolate syrup = apt in Miami. onlyweaknesskryptonite, Dark Knight, jimjum12 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post blazingbob Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/24/2021 at 3:39 AM, iggy said: When asked about his pre-opening purchases of games before the opening of Wata, Mark Haspel stated "The devil made me do it" Oh where is the suspense? On a scale from 1-10, Greed goes to 11 Edited August 24, 2021 by blazingbob iggy, Dark Knight, Cosmic_Shel and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Microchip Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:54 PM, Wolverinex said: https://bleedingcool.com/comics/will-giant-size-x-men-1-cgc-9-8-set-a-new-sales-record-today/ So now we know to take anything that happens on Heritage with a big dollop of salt. silverseeker, WolverineX, snitzer and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob jr Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 4:32 AM, Microchip said: So now we know to take anything that happens on Heritage with a big dollop of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Mark Wilson as Deep Throat. Oh the irony! MatterEaterLad and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 9:25 AM, Dr. Love said: Mark Wilson as Deep Throat. Oh the irony! What's the story about this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amatta Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 perhaps it's telling that CGC doesn't include Heritage sales in GPA (for example, that $2K Iron-Man 150 doesn't show up...) but the whole thing goes to show it's relatively easy to make money if you are willing to deceive and cheat. The bigger question is: is this actually illegal? If not, why doesn't the AG of Texas do something? I don't feel that the video adequately address those questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVoltage Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 10:16 PM, Wolverinex said: The video creator just pinned this statement: Pinned by Karl Jobst Karl Jobst 11 hours ago (edited) These people have a lot of power and money, so let's hope they don't attack me for this. A lot of people talk about money laundering but I didn't go into it because it's all pure speculation. Money laundering doesn't CAUSE bubbles. People can take advantage of a bubble that exists, but it's not the root cause. I just focused on what I could prove. Karl is wrong on this one. Money Laundering can absolutely cause bubbles. And it has in fine art and real estate as prime examples. Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighVoltage Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 8:32 AM, amatta said: perhaps it's telling that CGC doesn't include Heritage sales in GPA (for example, that $2K Iron-Man 150 doesn't show up...) but the whole thing goes to show it's relatively easy to make money if you are willing to deceive and cheat. The bigger question is: is this actually illegal? If not, why doesn't the AG of Texas do something? I don't feel that the video adequately address those questions. Ken Paxton is the Texas AG. He's being investigated by the FBI for corruption. He's also being looked at by the Texas State Bar. You think he gives a >bleep< about something like this? aardvark88, alexgross.com and silverseeker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 10:32 AM, amatta said: perhaps it's telling that CGC doesn't include Heritage sales in GPA (for example, that $2K Iron-Man 150 doesn't show up...) but the whole thing goes to show it's relatively easy to make money if you are willing to deceive and cheat. The bigger question is: is this actually illegal? If not, why doesn't the AG of Texas do something? I don't feel that the video adequately address those questions. That's not a CGC thing is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 3:07 AM, Buzzetta said: Don't even get me started. I was about to take my used shoe sales to the next level. I know guys who will sleep on the sidewalk outside a shoe store waiting for the new release.... GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Dark Knight and oldmilwaukee6er 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Lol. Everyone knows CGC "Consultant" [not employee and therefore exempted from the (DOES IT EVEN EXIST ANY MORE?) policy of CGC employees being prohibited from commercial buying/selling of CGC graded books ] Mark Haspel was buying droves of videogames leading up to the launch of WATA. No different than seeing him work at/for CGC during the week and filling a briefcase with books at comic shows on weekends. aardvark88 and buttock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla43 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 You only need to watch 25 seconds of that video to understand that there is fraud and deception going on with sealed games, Wata, Heritage.. Even thou I am on the gamer/ game collector side on this versus Wata, Heritage. People like Pat The Nes Punk or those youtubers are almost as bad. Pat is just mad that no one cares about his complete loose Nes collection or his Nintendo world championships carts. I bet the other commentators had also some hidden agenda that they are trying to push. Which I think would be nice if there would be a retro game grading service which: 1. graders would open the cart and check the pcbs 2. graders would test the game 3. graders would remove battery if there is one (like some Snes games etc) 4. graders would check that the game has everything manual, maps, poster etc. 5. graders would grade everything and the slabbed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 10:00 AM, comicwiz said: While this centers on the market manipulation happening in the video game market, the players and overlap with people invested in the comic hobby is important for all to see, and this manipulation is not exclusive to video games. Well, whaddya know! Same manipulation model, same players, same cabal of crooks. And to think Dupcak was the great boogeyman of the hobby. The findings in this investigative report are virtual similar to those that were presented by many astute members of this and other comic book forums approximately 20 years ago. The parallel to the comic book certification age is remarkably similar. The only component of the crack-out model that's missing in this case is the actual physical alteration (restoration) of the collectible to enhance the appearance of the aged or damaged video game to garner the highest certified grade. But I suspect that may already be happening. WolverineX, silverseeker, comicwiz and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:21 PM, Wolverinex said: @valiantman What do you think about this video with Rally Rd showing up? On 8/23/2021 at 8:42 PM, mattn792 said: First thing I thought of once Rally was mentioned -- valiantman is gonna be pissed. Nah, Rally was one-third of one sentence about buying shares in the asset, but not having physical ownership. That's a concept worthy of its own 52 minute video, not 15 seconds in this one. Bottom line, though, if you put $100 into Rally (or Otis, or Mythic Markets) you might lose $100 on a comic, card, video game, jersey, exotic car, 1st edition novel, or any other item, but you won't lose more than $100. You certainly won't lose $8,000 like buying a whole WATA Atari Spider-Man for $9,000 in 2020 and seeing it sell for $8,000 less in 2021. Microchip, WolverineX, jimjum12 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post comicwiz Posted August 24, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/24/2021 at 3:40 PM, MasterChief said: Well, whaddya know! Same manipulation model, same players, same cabal of crooks. And to think Dupcak was the great boogeyman of the hobby. The findings in this investigative report are virtual similar to those that were presented by many astute members of this and other comic book forums approximately 20 years ago. The parallel to the comic book certification age is remarkably similar. The only component of the crack-out model that's missing in this case is the actual physical alteration (restoration) of the collectible to enhance the appearance of the aged or damaged video game to garner the highest certified grade. But I suspect that may already be happening. The stealth reconditioning aspects aside, the one glaring thing this video misses is the importance of that time gap between NCI being shuttered, and WATA forming - particularly how they used this hobby of ours as a stepping stone to bide them time, cut their teeth, all while licking their wounds after a watchdog was on to their chicanery. The footage showing a confident man, who seemingly has no care in the world, is in sharp contrast to a person who once seemed all too quick to respond on these boards, making statements of correction on his transgressions, particularly after Forbes did their darnedest to paint a very clear picture for everyone to understand what he did in the coin grading world. The perverse manner with which the players instilled a paranoia and fear we were leaving money on the table if we didn't flatten everything into pancakes, being brainwashed into believing that's the only way they were meant to be enjoyed and revered. Their history meant nothing anymore, it was all about numbers. Even worse, everyone acted like nothing was happening or was looking the other way. We had a 15 year head start, and while folks like myself were relegated to misfit for my overly critical view of how the hobby had been turned into something barely recognizable, they managed to walk all over us. All the while, emboldening them. Turning the person who had already had brushes with the FTC from someone operating in the background of Heritage and CGC, to a person with the confidence to take the scheme to the "next big thing." A little over two years ago, the fireworks were going off over WATA right here on these boards with the $100K sale of Super Mario Bros - not all of us fell for it though. Heck, even Halperin was once seen as a way to boost their image, until a few weeks back when the bio was pulled and now it can only be seen through the wayback machine. Two years from the time of the first bogus sale and the video game community appear to not only have had timing on their side, but are hopefully on their way to avoiding the kind of perversion left behind in this hobby of ours. Edited August 25, 2021 by comicwiz MatterEaterLad, aardvark88, MasterChief and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...