Modern Tier Grading is a joke...CGC just lost all of my future business. 3 3

[kimik]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:15 PM, greggy said:

I got the good grader on this one

Nice haul of books.

[Dr. Balls]

On 9/8/2022 at 11:07 AM, kimik said:

Gift grades are to be appreciated and quickly flipped!

Man, what is the recourse on buying that POS? Seller probably has a "no returns on graded books" clause. Would you take this up with CGC? I'd be furious if I unpacked a box and this turd was in it.

[Dr. Balls]

On 9/8/2022 at 11:35 AM, Artboy99 said:

Here is a 9.8 i had. Definitely is some luck of the draw

This is going back a few years for me, but I don't think CGC downgraded for ink cracking on the spine due to the bindery process, since that's a given with the heavy paper stock. May be different now, but I recall having a few 9.8s with this issue back in the day and I believe I asked the question about it here (on the old boards).

[Point Five]

CGC can rest assured they have my future business. But that's mostly because I forgot to turn off Auto-Renew.

 

[zzutak]

On 9/8/2022 at 8:33 AM, NumminzAK said:

used a high profile professional pressing company that is certified by CGC.

I was not aware that CGC "certified" companies.  However, if they do, I'm confident they would not object to you naming that company publicly, here in this thread.  Perhaps @CGC Mike would, in the event that you won't.  Many thanks! 

[mattn792]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:38 PM, NumminzAK said:

The first post was when I saw the grades online, this post is with updated status of having them in my hands to actually see for myself. And instead of the books being damaged by CGC...it's now clear they really just tossed grades at books that are not remotely 9.0. But hey, thanks for the trolling. I'm by far not the only one experiencing this...there are many, many youtube video's of long time CGC submitters experiencing the same results and posting them. I will definitely get some scans up soon. As I said...even within this single bunch...there are books that are 9.0 that are cleaner than some that got 9.6.

You're posting here, not the youtubers.  Pics/scans of your examples, please.

[JWKyle]

On 9/8/2022 at 11:15 AM, greggy said:

I got the good grader on this one

look at all those undergraded 9.9 and 10's 

Edited September 8, 2022 by JWKyle

[Stefan_W]

On 9/8/2022 at 2:37 PM, JWKyle said:

look at all those undergraded 9.9 and 10's 

It is the amount of 9.8s. I just had a shipment graded where I got 20/25 9.8s and I was not all too pleased with that results since I triple and quadruple checked each book before sending them in. I have to see the books again to confirm, but it looks to me like I got one of the really tough graders even though the overall percentage of hits does not look too bad from the outside. 

[kimik]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:23 PM, Dr. Balls said:

Man, what is the recourse on buying that POS? Seller probably has a "no returns on graded books" clause. Would you take this up with CGC? I'd be furious if I unpacked a box and this turd was in it.

That is why you buy the book and not the label. 

 

 

[Dr. Balls]

On 9/8/2022 at 1:12 PM, kimik said:

That is why you buy the book and not the label. 

 

 

100%

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 9/8/2022 at 2:13 PM, Dr. Balls said:

On 9/8/2022 at 2:12 PM, kimik said:

That is why you buy the book and not the label. 

 

 

100%

acetate's or not, too  

[zoso99]

I have switched to economy and standard to access the more experienced graders. I will pay extra to get the actual (or at least close to actual) grade. I have a couple of small submissions left in modern.

[OJ Pimpson]

This post is absolutely worthless without scans. Even one. Pick the very worst example and share

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 9/8/2022 at 3:29 PM, Hot Nickels said:

This post is absolutely worthless without scans. Even one. Pick the very worst example and share

Nickels gets it

[joeypost]

I submitted two books. Same issue, basically the same grade with exception of one book having a small spine break. That was it. 
 

Book 1 was 9.8 as expected.

Book 2 was 9.0 with notes stating bends to the bottom corner of the book. Was expecting 9.4/9.6. 
 

I will post scans when they arrive. 

[jokiing]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:51 PM, joeypost said:

I submitted two books. Same issue, basically the same grade with exception of one book having a small spine break. That was it. 
 

Book 1 was 9.8 as expected.

Book 2 was 9.0 with notes stating bends to the bottom corner of the book. Was expecting 9.4/9.6. 
 

I will post scans when they arrive. 

Is your presser CGC certified?

[joeypost]

On 9/8/2022 at 4:03 PM, jokiing said:

Is your presser CGC certified?

Or certifiable?

[Artboy99]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:13 PM, kimik said:

Is that the raw 8.0 you bought from me? 

I think so

[Old Fashion PB and J]

On 9/8/2022 at 2:07 PM, NumminzAK said:

I have no problem looking at books I send and seeing grades that make sense and acknowledging that I sent something in that shouldn't have gone. That's not what's happening here. As I mentioned...if you're interested in seeing the trend...check out several of the frequent submitters on youtube who are experiencing as similar shift. There is clearly a change happening and it should be a concern for everyone...CGC is supposed to be the gold standard and demand premium pricing...if this continues...there will be no point.

Post scans of some of the books. If there is a legitimate gripe, this IS the place. But you need to start posting up some scans of these books. 

[Ed Hanes]

On 9/8/2022 at 11:15 AM, Artboy99 said:

CGC has also had a long history of  loose grading then changing to tight grading. Consistency is currently not thei strong point.

Yeah, I just wish they could be more consistent..I based my recent prescreen 9.8 Modern submissions (7/65) on my first two submissions (35/50) and so I felt comfortable going all in...I wonder if there is a hook and bait thing going on (that's just the cynical side of me, probably just a luck of the draw coincidence). i have 75 more in the que...we will see

Edited September 8, 2022 by Ed Hanes