EBAY: BLOCKED USER LIST 54 54

[Brock]

I recently listed an item, and quickly picked up 10 watchers. Buyer xallstars made a lowball offer, and I countered. He accepted the counter, then later e-mailed to say he had accepted the offer "accidentally" and wanted to count offer another lowball amount.

I accepted the cancellation, but now I'm out 10 watchers...

Edited March 30 by Brock

[B2D327]

On 3/30/2024 at 3:07 PM, Brock said:

 

I accepted thecancellation, but now I'm out 10 watchers...

Ebay will send emails automatically to watchers that missed out on an item if it's relisted...they're desperate like that to charge you fees

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 3/30/2024 at 3:44 PM, B2D327 said:

On 3/30/2024 at 2:07 PM, Brock said:

accepted thecancellation, but now I'm out 10 watchers...

Ebay will send emails automatically to watchers that missed out on an item if it's relisted...they're desperate like that to charge you fees

Good to know! At first I thought you just meant with the "people are interested 🤔 send offer" option that eBay usually does with enough watchers.

Good to know a canceled listing has fail-safes too!

[B2D327]

On 3/30/2024 at 6:04 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

Good to know! At first I thought you just meant with the "people are interested 🤔 send offer" option that eBay usually does with enough watchers.

Good to know a canceled listing has fail-safes too!

I don't know if "fail safe" would be the right term but I've missed a ton of auctions over the last couple of months and the amounts of relists I get emails about has been a pretty high percentage of my watchlist. It doesn't say if it's from non payers or just ignored listings but some sellers will add that to the description 

[Darwination]

It's tough.  I keep automatic payment processing off so that combining shipping is easier, but then the occasional non-payer makes me wish I had BINs set on autopay

Any non-payer (usually copper/modern) gets blocked, but you lose watchers and opportunity time. eBay makes it too easy not to pay

[Lightning55]

On 3/30/2024 at 7:41 PM, Darwination said:

I keep automatic payment processing off

Where is that setting located?  I don't think I knew you could control how/when people paid.  This requires you to invoice before they can pay?

[Stefan_W]

On 3/30/2024 at 7:50 PM, Lightning55 said:

Where is that setting located?  I don't think I knew you could control how/when people paid.  This requires you to invoice before they can pay?

As far as I know, you are allowed to make buyers pay immediately for buy it now items. It does not work the same for auctions or make an offer sales.

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 3/30/2024 at 6:52 PM, Stefan_W said:

On 3/30/2024 at 6:50 PM, Lightning55 said:

Where is that setting located?  I don't think I knew you could control how/when people paid.  This requires you to invoice before they can pay?

As far as I know, you are allowed to make buyers pay immediately for buy it now items. It does not work the same for auctions or make an offer sales.

Lightning may be referring too, when sending an offer on a book PayPal has been demanding a way to pay if accepted?

It doesn't allow all the options to pay that way either... Maybe lightning is or maybe he isn't, but that is a pain regardless.

I think it just when sending an offer but it might be other avenues as well, that eBay demands the payment method when discussing and item for sale

[Darwination]

On 3/30/2024 at 6:50 PM, Lightning55 said:

Where is that setting located?  I don't think I knew you could control how/when people paid.  This requires you to invoice before they can pay?

 eBay has been increasingly moving towards forced autopay or at least making it setup as default when an offer gets accepted or BIN is purchased.  I forget where in seller preferences you can mess with the setting, and I can change it when I list any individual item.  The thing is, even if I don't have immediate payment required on an item, many buyers have it set up on their side which still mean sending shipping refunds.

It's not the pain of the refund I mind, it's that buyers have to trust the seller to do it which isn't optimum from either point of view (the worry being it discourages sales).

Every non payment (one in 10, one in 20?) makes me think it's just easier to have it required as much as possible...

[RockMyAmadeus]

[Lightning55]

Oh, it's the Immediate Payment function being referred to. Yeah, I'm very familiar with that, just never heard it called automatic payment. And even when you don't have it set, eBay will force it anyway. 

As mentioned above, eBay is more and more requiring a payment method in place for bidding and offers. It's a mixed bag, because while it may be preventing some instances of nonpayment, it is a speed bump for sales and combining shipping. Pick your poison, I guess. 

[MatterEaterLad]

Edited.

Auction was cancelled but the buyer finally reached out.

I relisted as a lot and he paid. 

 

Edited April 12 by MatterEaterLad

[B2D327]

On 4/11/2024 at 8:29 PM, MatterEaterLad said:

Here's another winner:

rholo1054 - Rhodely R. Vallon

He won 34 auctions. Paid for none.

 

 

What a jerk  

[Paul © ® ⚽️💙™]

Does anyone remember the fool thebatman1993?  He's mentioned multiple times in this thread. His MO as regards his dealings with me was to make offers on books, when accepted he would not pay...but then proceed to contact me with lame excuses and still professing love for the book and a desperate need to own it. Needless to say he never delivered on his promises. When a few weeks went buy he would start up all over again on a different book. I blocked him of course.

Last night I was contacted by a potential buyer which reminded me straight away of him. I agreed a price and then radio silence. I am pretty sure it's the same guy, now going by the handle on ebay of comicsncoins. His ebay profile pic also happens to be of Batman.. Certain it's the same fool.

This tool must literally have no life if this is how he gets his kicks...either that or he gets off on irritating Brits like me.

I'm guessing his mother's his sister and possibly his wife.  

Complete and utter numpty. Would love to meet this fool.

[Chip Cataldo]

Numpty? Holy crud that made me laugh. I learned a new insult term today. Lol.

[Paul © ® ⚽️💙™]

On 4/12/2024 at 6:58 PM, Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ said:

Does anyone remember the fool thebatman1993?  He's mentioned multiple times in this thread. His MO as regards his dealings with me was to make offers on books, when accepted he would not pay...but then proceed to contact me with lame excuses and still professing love for the book and a desperate need to own it. Needless to say he never delivered on his promises. When a few weeks went buy he would start up all over again on a different book. I blocked him of course.

Last night I was contacted by a potential buyer which reminded me straight away of him. I agreed a price and then radio silence. I am pretty sure it's the same guy, now going by the handle on ebay of comicsncoins. His ebay profile pic also happens to be of Batman.. Certain it's the same fool.

This tool must literally have no life if this is how he gets his kicks...either that or he gets off on irritating Brits like me.

I'm guessing his mother's his sister and possibly his wife.  

Complete and utter numpty. Would love to meet this fool.

OK, not just speculation and strong suspicion. DEFINITELY confirmed.

This poltroon who was thebatman1993 on ebay now goes by the handle of comicsncoins.

BEWARE & BE WARNED.

[Gaard]

On 4/11/2024 at 8:29 PM, MatterEaterLad said:

Edited.

Auction was cancelled but the buyer finally reached out.

I relisted as a lot and he paid. 

 

Was he waiting for an invoice with combined shipping?

[MatterEaterLad]

On 4/15/2024 at 6:45 AM, Gaard said:

Was he waiting for an invoice with combined shipping?

No, I'd sent him an invoice with combined shipping. Twice. 

[circuitryusa]

I got one for you!!! My first scammer, caught in the act of trying to scam me, and of course revolted with the negative feedback.

(I'm the seller here)

Buyer: theraingerrain

(BY THE WAY... it is exactly tips and hints from THIS MESSAGE BOARD community I was able to stay calm, level headed, and get this moving forward. So I THANK YOU ALL!!!!

Now waiting on Ebay CC to jump in but I'm optimistic they will see the facts for what they are.... if not, no biggie... I'm moving all my stuff to MCS anyway and ditching ebay for comics as soon as I can... step by step)

 

TLDR: (but if you have the time, maybe you can learn other ways to help protect you):

He started by low-balling me offers for some raw Star Wars books. I actually made a deal, despite my gut telling me not to given his language and professionalism. I kinda hoped he would not buy, but he did, and I did my usually stellar response.

 

 

with this lovely photo:

 

So, within 8 hours, my response broken up to 2 messages to fit in the character limits:

"

You sent a message

Message

Hello, I’m sorry you have an issue with this item. As both an Ebay Buyer and Seller, I do my best to ensure utmost care of all items I sell, including accurate descriptions, clearly highlighting my opinions vs facts, proper packaging, final re-inspection before shipping, and finally fast shipping (Ebay allows me 3 days, but I’ve never gone over 1 day). This item in particular and your specific issue is worrisome. I’ve never had an item be incorrect when shipped. I strive to maintain my perfect review feedback, and will do everything in my power to assist you with this situation. I do this as a hobby because it is fun and I get to make people happy. So, I also strive for your happiness with this transaction. A single negative feedback will damage my credibility and ability to keep this as fun for me. I only sell about 1 item every 2 weeks or so. When I do, I place that item aside when I think it will sell, or when it has sold, and I compare it again to the listing photos to make sure nothing changed from the listing or if I notice any new issues or concerns. This allows me to reach out to the buyer and offer any discount. In this case, you and I had chatted for a few days about coming to a deal on these items. So, I know I had this lot placed aside on my desk and compared to my listing photos to ensure I was not selling anything that was not as described. I was happy when we made the deal, and I packaged them up promptly, and took photos when I dropped the item off at the Post Office including the entire package weight using the PO supplied scales and on the drop-off shelf. I will include those photos here."

 

You sent a message

Message

Message Part 2: I have had a $500 book come to me recently on an auction I won and it was not as described due to damage it had that was not captured in the photos. The seller also did not take returns. However, I reached out to the seller first using the messaging system, and explained what I saw and we agreed to do a contingent return where I offered to pay for return shipping Priority Mail, fully insured, in order to protect my original $500 purchase. Then, just last month I had another auction win with a $280 lot of books that were also not matching photos. I went through the same process by contacting the seller first and we discussed the issues before any return was initiated. Why am I mentioning this? It’s because I understand how frustrating it is to get something you do not want or expect. But it would also have been ideal if you could have reached out to me beforehand to figure out what was going on. This item was delivered on April 1st, with USPS tracking number 9405508205498794285266 nearly 2 weeks ago, so I’m sure we could have resolved any issues promptly over the last 2 weeks. Now, all that being said. I cannot accept this return. Why? Not now, nor have I ever in my life had any single item for Star Trek (comics, figures, trinkets, or the like) in my collection or home, Ever. I also do not have any 2023 FCBD items in my collection. Of note, this star wars set was the ONLY ever Star Wars items I ever had too. I just do not collect Star Wars or Star Trek. That was why I was willing to give a steep discount. There is just no possible way, with 100% certainty, that those star trek books you show in the photos are mine. They never existed in my collection, I do not know what they are, so there is no way I could have sent them to you even if I wanted to create a trouble. Now, if by chance you had posted a photo of X-men books, Sandman books, or any other item similar to my active or cancelled items for sale, you would maybe have made me pause for a moment to think I did screw up. However, there is absolutely zero chance those books in the photo came from me. Hence, I cannot process this return to pay for books to be sent to me that were never mine to begin with. I still want you to be happy, so I encourage you to cross-check any other packages you have that arrived at the same time as mine. Please see the photos here as a reminder that it was a white padded priority envelope, with multiple “Fragile Handle With Care” stickers. Is there a chance my books got confused or mixed up with some of your other items? That is the more likely scenario here. Please let me know. I hope you can find the correct books in your possession and cancel this return. Thanks!"

 

Later that night I did some digging and found the books he posted as ones I sent are ones he sells!!!

You sent a message

Message

Noted the books used in the photos as "proof" of wrong item delivered are EXACTLY the books sold (4 links) and currently active (4 more links) on your store over and over, yet never once associated to my account, purchase, or sales history: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386797897949 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386826762896 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386787038224 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386797934460 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386855665762 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386928344599 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386910230774 https://www.ebay.com/itm/386928314645 It would be fantastic if you can close the refund request immediately and let us both move forward. Thanks!

 

Then his expected response:

 

The buyer sent you a message

Message

Seems like you’re making some excuses.…. Wanna give me a partial refund, at like 8 bucks or something, and call it day, I’ll leave you a good free back and all?.! if not, I intend to have eBay help me. I don’t take kindly to receiving stuff that I didn’t order and not receiving my order.

 

And my response:

 

You sent a message

Message

This is perfect and all I needed to support my case. I was actually trying to get Ebay CS to come in early to help protect me and my account from this scam, but unfortunately, I need to wait the 3 days. By offering to leave me positive feedback if I give you money, that is called extortion, and is a violation of eBay’s terms. If I indeed received something entirely wrong in an order, I would not accept a partial rebate and would only settle on complete replacement. Since you are willing to accept a partial refund, in this case, and with all of the evidence I presented, it is abundantly clear to an impartial observer I am correct. I know 100% I did not send you those books in your photo. It’s impossible. Is it plausible I made a mistake and sent you the wrong books from MY collection? Maybe... It could have happened. However, then you would have sent me some photos showing books from MY collection, and not yours. Four of the books in your photo are the same as ones in your “for sale” and “previous sold” collections, of which I provided eight links showing such books. And, all of my books are ALWAYS in bags and boards. No excuses, just facts. So, the way I see it is we have two options:

1) It’s ok to admit you made a mistake and confused my books with other stacks in your collection. You did sit on them for 2 weeks, so it’s easy to shuffle things around. This is me giving you the benefit of the doubt. Cancel the return request without prejudice. We both move about our day. I will block you as a buyer, and I will make sure eBay customer service removes any negative comments you may be inclined to leave. I will not take any further action. We just will have no further business.

2) I will let the three days expire (tomorrow night) by taking no further action. The moment the 3 days expire, I can go to my account and request eBay join in to assist me with this matter. I will present to them all the evidence I have, including our chat history, and these messages. They will decide what happens. Usually, as you may know, eBay tends to side with the buyer, and not the seller. However, I am 100% confident I have enough evidence to have them not ding my account, nor make me pay. Should they decide you are correct then they will likely refund you on their dime. The other outcome is they recognize my information is correct, and they decide your claim is fraudulent. Again, no harm to my account. Either outcome of option #2 does not impact me, but there is risk it impacts your account. So, you decide. I am not giving anyone money on extortion terms, no matter how small. Best Regards

 

and the final two before I got dinged with the negative feedback:

 

 

Edited April 15 by circuitryusa
removed one duplicate photo

[trademarkcomics]

Here is one of my trouble children who just popped up again today.

The thing is, he makes reasonable offers. But, I have had so many issues with him returning, canceling, backcharging cards(after shipment!!!), eBay deregistering him and canceling the sale(after shipment!!!). He lives in the Phillipines and uses a reshipper out of Illinois(This is how I spot him when he starts up a new ID). I've talked to him a bunch of times. He's the nicest guy in his messages and some of the sales have actually stuck, he's just trouble. I ban anyone with 0 feedback from either Des Plaines or Arlington Heights Illinois.

Aliases:

Mike Mandas, Mixali Mantis

The IDs he's used so far:  jitsrun56, mixmav0, mjerro_30, mjinsert_6, rarepric49, revelatio-18