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Doctor Strange 2 announced.
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Bosco685

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On 5/9/2022 at 4:19 PM, Chaos_in_Canada said:

A film with Doctor Strange & Wanda opening to 450M+ globally without China, Russia and other countries...is a win.

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$449.4M if we were focused on facts. I recognize that's a stretch for you.

 

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A great review on IMDB.   It looks honest, as its lowest score is on logic, pacing, and dialogue.

 

A Journey Through The Multiverse
Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness - 2022 - Directed by Sami Raimi - Starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Elizabeth Olsen, Xochitl Gomez - This is my personal, detailed rating of the movie based on multiple key aspects that I believe define what makes a movie good or bad. I watched the movie in cinemas (Laser Ultra) with a few friends and I enjoyed it quite a lot. I think it's also fair to say that I'm a Marvel fan, as well as a superhero movie fan in general. Enjoy the review!

Story Aspects:
  • Entertainment: 7,5/10
  • Story: 8/10
  • Execution: 7/10
Three Act Structure:
  • First act: 7,5/10
  • Second act: 9/10
  • Third act: 6,5/10
Characters:
  • Casting: 9/10
  • Acting: 7,5/10
  • Dialogue: 6/10
  • Emotional attachment: 7/10
  • Protagonist: 8/10
  • Antagonist: 9/10
  • Tertiaries & Extras: 7,5/10
Environment & Vibe:
  • Action: 7/10
  • Humor: 6,5/10
  • Horror: 7/10
  • Creativity/Risk: 9/10
  • Pacing: 6/10
  • Logic: 5/10
  • Atmosphere: 8/10
Filmography:
  • Score: 7,5/10
  • Editing: 8/10
  • Cinematography: 8/10
  • Direction: 8/10
  • Costume design: 9/10
Notes:
  • General runtime too short for a story this large
  • The world building capable due to the Multiverse concept isn't used to its full potential.


TOTAL RATING: 7,5/10.
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Bosco685

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On 5/9/2022 at 4:13 PM, Broke as a Joke said:

So Dr. Strange is in the top 10 of biggest openers ever?  Unreal...I guess the MCU is healthy afterall.

After the ups and downs of the first three Phase IV movies, it was Spider-Man: No Way Home that exploded it back to the top again. Doctor Strange 2 seems to have benefitted from Wanda and Doctor Strange continuing their journey after his 6th and her 9th (if you count all 9 WandaVision episodes as 1) appearances in the 28th MCU film under Sam Raimi's directorship sure did help drive audience excitement.

Or do we pretend Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange are still new characters, with no audience awareness or emotional history?

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On 5/9/2022 at 10:22 PM, Microchip said:

A great review on IMDB.   It looks honest, as its lowest score is on logic, pacing, and dialogue.

 

A Journey Through The Multiverse
Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness - 2022 - Directed by Sami Raimi - Starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Elizabeth Olsen, Xochitl Gomez - This is my personal, detailed rating of the movie based on multiple key aspects that I believe define what makes a movie good or bad. I watched the movie in cinemas (Laser Ultra) with a few friends and I enjoyed it quite a lot. I think it's also fair to say that I'm a Marvel fan, as well as a superhero movie fan in general. Enjoy the review!

Story Aspects:
  • Entertainment: 7,5/10
  • Story: 8/10
  • Execution: 7/10
Three Act Structure:
  • First act: 7,5/10
  • Second act: 9/10
  • Third act: 6,5/10
Characters:
  • Casting: 9/10
  • Acting: 7,5/10
  • Dialogue: 6/10
  • Emotional attachment: 7/10
  • Protagonist: 8/10
  • Antagonist: 9/10
  • Tertiaries & Extras: 7,5/10
Environment & Vibe:
  • Action: 7/10
  • Humor: 6,5/10
  • Horror: 7/10
  • Creativity/Risk: 9/10
  • Pacing: 6/10
  • Logic: 5/10
  • Atmosphere: 8/10
Filmography:
  • Score: 7,5/10
  • Editing: 8/10
  • Cinematography: 8/10
  • Direction: 8/10
  • Costume design: 9/10
Notes:
  • General runtime too short for a story this large
  • The world building capable due to the Multiverse concept isn't used to its full potential.


TOTAL RATING: 7,5/10.

The Horror rating is too low and the Humor rating is much too high. Fairly based, though.

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So, through no fault of my own, I've now seen this twice. I agreed to go see it with a dear old friend that I don't get to see often enough, and we made plans to see it on Monday. But the wife wanted to see it with me FIRST, so that meant I saw it Saturday as well. So, two viewings in three days. This is also only the third movie I've seen in a theater since the pandemic began. A new Sam Raimi movie is enough to get me out of the house. Twice!

For starters, I'm not big on superhero movies. I think the Marvel movies are mostly fine. I enjoy some more than others, but they're all very similar in my mind. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Marvel is a brand, they're selling the idea of a homogenized experience with updated window-dressing for each installment, and it seems to have worked out for them.

However, I am a HUGE Sam Raimi fan, ever since my blood-soaked teenage days of watching the Evil Dead trilogy on infinite loop. I adore most of his output, particularly A Simple Plan, Drag Me to Hell, The Gift, Darkman, The Quick and the Dead...hell, really all of them except for the Oz movie and the baseball flick, which didn't really feel like Sam to me.

Anyway, I feel like this Dr Strange movie is probably the best possible mishmash of the MCU and Sam's style, especially considering the shooting and scheduling constraints. Pretty much any faults I have with the movie are laid at Marvel's feet. What began with Endgame and was continued with No Way Home is furthered here, in that Marvel seems to only be interested in disappearing up their own . The days of individual, complete stories in a single film are completely over. Nothing can stand on its own, every piece has to reference every other piece. These aren't movies. They're content...things. 

We get lots of clumsy expository dialogue that is as hard to listen to as it was difficult for the actors to say, apparently. There's lots of hand holding, fan service, and not much else, story wise.

However, I was able to get past that, as I could see Sam still in there, underneath all of the cross-promotional minutiae. The dolly zoom, the sound drop leading to slow-mo, the iris in and out, the distinct warping of body language (from Scarlet Witch's rictus twitching to Final Strange's clenched teeth), it was all Sam, and it was beautiful. This PG-13 superhero romp is not really a horror movie, but it borrows heavily from the visual language of horror films, particularly Sam's catalog. He is speaking my language. I dig it.

So, at the end of the day, it's another dumb superhero movie, which I expected, but it's chock full of Sam Raimi visual delights, so I was perfectly pleased, and will likely watch it again, which is more than I can say for most modern movies. The 

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Zombie Strange wielding a cloak of souls of the damned

is one of the coolest images in the entirety of the MCU, and was enough on its own to win me over. That's big screen vision. Beautiful stuff.

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I went with the fam last night.  Absolutely loved it.  Yeah, the America actress was clunky, but I think part of that was that she was really just a prop for the plot.  But other than that the pacing was well done, the story was fun, the battle scene between SW and the Illuminati was about perfect.  I walked out having had a good time.  For an enjoyable popcorn movie, I'd put it in my top 5 Marvel movies.  And better than that pouty Twilight Batman who turned Bruce Wayne into a goth teen.  

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I realize that there are lots of Sam Raimi fans out there, and more power to 'em.

But today I was reminded that he is the guy who directed Darkman, one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life.  And now I understand better why there were elements of this movie that were so jarring for me, because they were basically ripped right out of Darkman.

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Since this was a hot topic (and speculation these) for the longest time... 

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On the heels of the film's record-breaking opening, writer Michael Waldron caught up with Variety to discuss Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. When asked whether the frequently theorized Mephisto was in play for the film, Waldron confirmed that the iconic villain was never seriously considered, only "in jokes" at the Marvel Studios offices. See what Waldron said below:

 

"No. Only in jokes. Only in bits I did in the writers room and in text messages I sent to ['WandaVision' head writer] Jac Schaeffer. Mephisto was never in play for us."

 

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On 5/9/2022 at 8:22 PM, Microchip said:

A great review on IMDB.   It looks honest, as its lowest score is on logic, pacing, and dialogue.

 

A Journey Through The Multiverse
Doctor Strange In The Multiverse of Madness - 2022 - Directed by Sami Raimi - Starring Benedict Cumberbatch, Elizabeth Olsen, Xochitl Gomez - This is my personal, detailed rating of the movie based on multiple key aspects that I believe define what makes a movie good or bad. I watched the movie in cinemas (Laser Ultra) with a few friends and I enjoyed it quite a lot. I think it's also fair to say that I'm a Marvel fan, as well as a superhero movie fan in general. Enjoy the review!

Story Aspects:
  • Entertainment: 7,5/10
  • Story: 8/10
  • Execution: 7/10
Three Act Structure:
  • First act: 7,5/10
  • Second act: 9/10
  • Third act: 6,5/10
Characters:
  • Casting: 9/10
  • Acting: 7,5/10
  • Dialogue: 6/10
  • Emotional attachment: 7/10
  • Protagonist: 8/10
  • Antagonist: 9/10
  • Tertiaries & Extras: 7,5/10
Environment & Vibe:
  • Action: 7/10
  • Humor: 6,5/10
  • Horror: 7/10
  • Creativity/Risk: 9/10
  • Pacing: 6/10
  • Logic: 5/10
  • Atmosphere: 8/10
Filmography:
  • Score: 7,5/10
  • Editing: 8/10
  • Cinematography: 8/10
  • Direction: 8/10
  • Costume design: 9/10
Notes:
  • General runtime too short for a story this large
  • The world building capable due to the Multiverse concept isn't used to its full potential.


TOTAL RATING: 7,5/10.

agree with this review.

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