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Dark Knight

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On 3/17/2022 at 10:25 AM, Jaydogrules said:
On 3/16/2022 at 4:57 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Wow. It appears that a little bit of glue didn’t bother anyone.

I don’t Know if this includes the 15% vig

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It probably would have pushed $400k without the restoration.  

Metro/CC had this same copy up for sale at $350k quite recently in their booth without the QES sticker.  Looks like it is right in line with the sale price.

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On 3/17/2022 at 9:48 AM, Dark Knight said:

Lastly, with regards to Tec 33 vs Tec 35.  For as long as I've been collecting Pre-Robins, it seems that both books are neck and neck in price. There was really no large discrepancy in value at least in low - mid grades.  There was never a period that I can recall where a Tec 33 sold for half a Tec 35? :whatthe:  If that actually happened, I must've been in hibernation mode lol.  

I've always thought Tec 33 is undervalued.  I think it is more important historically than Tec 29 and Tec 31 which sells for higher.   But, it looks like cooler covers rule and Tec 33 is lacking in that department compared to those two. 

I guess this is clearly a sign of how much the current CGC inspired marketplace is really so much more cover centric focused now as compared to the old days prior to CGC coming into place.  (thumbsu

Detective 33 is definitely much more popular with the long time old school collectors whereas 'Tec 35 has risen in prominence with the CGC generation of classic cover centric focused collectors.  I certainly also don't remember 'Tec 33 selling for half of 'Tec 35, but still remember the times prior to CGC when 'Tec 35 was valued at only a fraction (i.e. something like 20% - 25%) of where 'Tec 33 was valued at in the Overstreet Guide. :preach:

Rather shockingly to my surprise, it looks like even old slow Bob has recognized the rising popularity and value of 'Tec 35 as he's got it at noticeably higher valuations in his guide for grades up to VF 8.0 and then with 'Tec 33 valued slightly higher than 'Tec 35 in the upper two conitions grades in this year's edition of the price guide.  :whatthe:

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On 3/17/2022 at 1:24 PM, Straw-Man said:

somewhere between the 2 f.s. at c.c.

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That definitely ain't little at all (worship) She's a beauty, congrats!!!!  This is the kind of copy I wish I can afford and have in my collection.

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On 3/17/2022 at 1:06 PM, Gotham Kid said:

$2,111,111 (sans BP) with 3hrs to go :whatthe:

This will hit 3Mil+ by the time it is over.

Well, as we all knew even back then, it looks like old Jay was right about the Marvel 1 Pay Copy with his major problem being the fact that he had overpaid for the book at the time.  Of course, he compounded the problem by cementing his mistake in place, as opposed to most long time comic book collectors who use the benefit and luxury of time to convert their shiort term mistakes into long term big time winners.  doh!  :taptaptap:  :taptaptap:  :banana:

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On 3/17/2022 at 8:51 PM, Dark Knight said:

Still kicking myself for not buying the Lloyd Jacquett Marvel 1 Oct. proof copy for under $20k back in 2013 :pullhair:.  That's what happens when you don't MANNUP :manhero: :Rocket:

and me on a tec 27 8.5 MP for 60k in 2011-2012 :facepalm:

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court copy of action 10 came in to more fun comics one day while i was in n.o. on depositions, and was just hanging out with the boys afterwards.   being a litigator, i almost bought it just for the connection, but ultimately poo-pooed it cuz it was a pos d.c.   what an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

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On 3/17/2022 at 2:08 PM, Straw-Man said:

court copy of action 10 came in to more fun comics one day while i was visiting n.o. on depositions, and was just hanging out with the boys.   being a litigator, i almost bought it just for the connection, but ultimately poo-pooed it cuz it was a pos d.c.   what an insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

Could have been worse and been a pos Timely :nyah:

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On 3/17/2022 at 2:20 PM, Gotham Kid said:

At the time 60k was a lot of money to me...

Guess 350k plus is even more money now :nyah: All kidding aside I still kick myself for not buying your Tec 28 when you offered it to me :wavingwhiteflag:

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On 3/17/2022 at 9:31 PM, woowoo said:

I still kick myself for not buying your Tec 28 when you offered it to me

Offer still open, pm me if you want 

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On 3/17/2022 at 12:48 PM, Dark Knight said:

Do you think Marvel 1 is still undervalued?  Yes Marvel 1 has the history and it's a great book, actually either my #2 or #3 favorite book in the golden age behind Tec 27. So, definitely not trying to undervalue the book nor degrading its importance.  

Yes, it's true that there are less copies out there of Marvel 1 compared to Bat 1 and Cap 1.  Out of the top 10 GA keys, I think Bat 1 is the most common. Even if there are hundreds of copies of Bat 1 out there, it is still commanding a high price.  It's very liquid and still high in demand for as long as I can remember.  Sometimes rarity does not translate to more valuable.  If that's the case, then every platinum age book should be more valuable than golden age and silver age, but it's not the case.  All about popularity and key issues and in today's comic book market, hype/movie centered characters for the most part.  

Are the hike in prices of Marvel 1 caused by the the rumors/speculation surrounding Namor/Submariner that he will be in a Marvel movie or is it because of the love and history of the book?  if it's purely on the speculation that Subby will be in a Marvel movie, than Motion Picture Funnies Weekly being it is the 1st app of Namor should be in the same level as Marvel Comics #1 or more.  There's what only a dozen copies in existence?  

Nothing will trump Action 1 and Tec 27 as the #1 and #2 book in the hobby.  Period.  Those books will remain in that position (it's possible they can switch spots) forever!  

Taking a glance at the Heritage archives on past sales of Marvel #1 (of course more copies sold in different venues as well as privately).  From 2002 - 2010, there was on avg. 3-4 copies that sold.  From 2011 until 2020, roughly just one copy for sale. There was maybe a couple years in that time period where no copies were sold. This was the point I was talking about where Marvel 1 was for some reason held in private collections, rarely up for sale until recently in 2021 where there were 2 copies that sold and so far this year 3 copies known.  Who knows if there are other private deals in the works today.  So I am predicting volume will pick up once again and bring out more copies for sale restored and unrestored.  

Lastly, with regards to Tec 33 vs Tec 35.  For as long as I've been collecting Pre-Robins, it seems that both books are neck and neck in price. There was really no large discrepancy in value at least in low - mid grades.  There was never a period that I can recall where a Tec 33 sold for half a Tec 35? :whatthe:  If that actually happened, I must've been in hibernation mode lol.  

I've always thought Tec 33 is undervalued.  I think it is more important historically than Tec 29 and Tec 31 which sells for higher.   But, it looks like cooler covers rule and Tec 33 is lacking in that department compared to those two.   

 

look at 6.5 2012 and 2013 for the tec 33 and 35

 

i was a tec33 collector 

 

It was  unloved

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On 3/17/2022 at 5:47 PM, zen514 said:

 

look at 6.5 2012 and 2013 for the tec 33 and 35

 

i was a tec33 collector 

 

It was  unloved

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50k vs 26k   sounds like 96% difference 

and not neck at neck

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On 3/17/2022 at 1:24 PM, Dark Knight said:

Metro/CC had this same copy up for sale at $350k quite recently in their booth without the QES sticker.  Looks like it is right in line with the sale price.

True that.  The original ask reflected the restoration notes, as did the final hammer.  

The new sticker was hoping to overcome or at least negate the notes.  It didn't.

-J.

 

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