The ALL Schomburg all-the-time thread... 15 15

[Cat-Man_America]

On 8/5/2021 at 6:25 PM, Jginsberg79 said:

Thank you for the response. I learned a lot! As a newer folk, I'm also looking into the 3 lithograph set that was issued to see if I can find any. I hear they are huge but the pics I've seen have been amazing.

I believe the lithographs measure approximately the same size as the paintings from which they were shot for the Buccaneer Graphics prints (23" X 29" overall, image size 21" X 26" according to HA).  The unsigned lithos shouldn't cost you the family farm, ...the Schomburg signed limited editions (there were 150 and 10 artists proofs) will probably run $500 each and up depending on the condition gauging from past sales and the current market.  The S/N print I owned before purchasing the original sold for quite a bit more than $500 about six years back, but it was professionally matted and framed. 

[Jginsberg79]

On 8/6/2021 at 2:14 AM, Cat-Man_America said:

I believe the lithographs measure approximately the same size as the paintings from which they were shot for the Buccaneer Graphics prints (23" X 29" overall, image size 21" X 26" according to HA).  The unsigned lithos shouldn't cost you the family farm, ...the Schomburg signed limited editions (there were 150 and 10 artists proofs) will probably run $500 each and up depending on the condition gauging from past sales and the current market.  The S/N print I owned before purchasing the original sold for quite a bit more than $500 about six years back, but it was professionally matted and framed. 

Thank you for the numbers! I found one (limited/signed) that may be for sale and we were just about to talk price so that's extremely useful (I very much want all 3 for my comic room). If I'm reading this right, did you say you purchased the original? Could we see a picture? That's such an amazing find! I'm just hoping to get his signature on one of the war books I love that I couldn't even imagine owning something like that or the cost (6-figures easily?).

[Badger]

On 8/6/2021 at 1:14 AM, Cat-Man_America said:

I believe the lithographs measure approximately the same size as the paintings from which they were shot for the Buccaneer Graphics prints (23" X 29" overall, image size 21" X 26" according to HA).  The unsigned lithos shouldn't cost you the family farm, ...the Schomburg signed limited editions (there were 150 and 10 artists proofs) will probably run $500 each and up depending on the condition gauging from past sales and the current market.  The S/N print I owned before purchasing the original sold for quite a bit more than $500 about six years back, but it was professionally matted and framed. 

Looks great in my brand new comic room

[Cat-Man_America]

On 8/6/2021 at 7:32 AM, Jginsberg79 said:

Thank you for the numbers! I found one (limited/signed) that may be for sale and we were just about to talk price so that's extremely useful (I very much want all 3 for my comic room). If I'm reading this right, did you say you purchased the original? Could we see a picture? That's such an amazing find! I'm just hoping to get his signature on one of the war books I love that I couldn't even imagine owning something like that or the cost (6-figures easily?).

You did see it.  That was the Heritage image in the original frame (meant to include the attribution below it; HA includes it with all of their current images).  I decided to keep the frame, as  it compliments the work and may have been the same frame Alex Schomburg chose after Buccaneer Graphics shot hi-rez images for the lithos.  I'll provide two images below, the Heritage shot and one I took (none of the photos I took via iPad matched the clarity and detail of the earlier Heritage shot)...

   

This painting is awesome under lighting and the colors really pop. My photography (on right) doesn't do it justice. It's difficult to capture in a photograph even under the non-glare plexiglass.  

Note: This magnificent work was purchased privately, negotiated with the owner through my friend Mitchell Mehdy.  Mitch knew the owner who'd acquired it through HA and after learning of my interest helped make initial contact and broker a deal. 

PS: A side note and word of advice to jginsburg79 or anyone considering purchase of the Buccaneer prints or any lithographic art of this kind.  Be sure to keep them out of direct sunlight.  These prints do have vivid colors, but are prone to fading over time with exposure to bright UV light.  I would recommend LED lighting although I believe incandescent is generally okay.  Would not recommend fluorescent or halogen lighting as these operate in a spectrum that can fade dyes like sunlight. My cautionary is based on the fact that my earlier S/N print was slightly faded when I purchased it, while I've seen unfaded prints that are as bold or nearly so in presentation to the original.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Cat-Man_America

[Pantodude]

Schomburg pulp covers!   While the first book, at about the size of a comic book, is already significantly smaller than many sci-fi pulps of the 30s, 40s, and 50s, the second book is smaller still -- about the size of a regular paperback novel!   I wish they had both been about 9" x 12" like other sci-fi pulps.   

   

Edited August 8, 2021 by Pantodude

[Paul © ® ⚽️💙™]

On 8/8/2021 at 2:34 PM, Pantodude said:

 

   

This is particularly awesome!  

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

I bought this off the Heritage exchange, only to find a piece of plastic had been left on Caps machine gun by the graders. So I just got it reholdered, and I asked cgc for a scan. Check it out!

Edited August 13, 2021 by GreatCaesarsGhost

[comicnoir]

Beautiful.

[Primetime]

On 8/12/2021 at 6:49 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

I bought this off the Heritage exchange, only to find a piece of plastic had been left on Caps machine gun by the graders. So I just got it reholdered, and I asked cgc for a scan. Check it out!

 and they removed the “classic cover” from the label 👀

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

On 8/13/2021 at 2:12 AM, Primetime said:

 and they removed the “classic cover” from the label 👀

I know!!! Based on our recent convo I should have seen it coming, but it was still a shock

[Cat-Man_America]

On 8/13/2021 at 5:54 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

I know!!! Based on our recent convo I should have seen it coming, but it was still a shock

I'm glad they were able to remove the plastic piece and reholder without damage to the book.  You had to be sweatin' that.   Maybe it's just my eyes (probably), but there seems to be a trade-off in images.  In the newer image, the colors are lighter ...orange instead of red... and whites blown out a little, but details are a bit sharper (there's a definite difference perhaps because it's a photograph instead of a scan).  The color depth and "pop" seems washed out in the new image as you could even see "rose in Cap's & Subby's cheeks" in the earlier scan.  The CGC seems to be using HA's more recent approach to imaging.

Of course I have no idea how this book looks in hand in the new holder (beautiful book though).  I'm curious which color image looks more accurate to you?  

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by Cat-Man_America
reholder typo and a couple of other other errors

[Hoarder]

Just got it in the mail yesterday.  Freshly graded

[Cat-Man_America]

On 9/9/2021 at 11:01 PM, Hoarder said:

Just got it in the mail yesterday.  Freshly graded

Very nice, ...the added touch of the guy in back pouring nitro-glycerine is a blast!  

[Robot Man]

On 9/9/2021 at 9:01 PM, Hoarder said:

Just got it in the mail yesterday.  Freshly graded

Wow, what a beautiful book. Just packed with Schomburg Action. 7.0 is such a great grade. Well presenting and a little more affordable. Congrats!

I have the Schomburg run on Hornet but I’m a little embarrassed to post them because most are pretty low grade...

[Badger]

On 9/12/2021 at 10:19 AM, Robot Man said:

Wow, what a beautiful book. Just packed with Schomburg Action. 7.0 is such a great grade. Well presenting and a little more affordable. Congrats!

I have the Schomburg run on Hornet but I’m a little embarrassed to post them because most are pretty low grade...

Go for it, man! I collect across the entire spectrum so I'd love to see them!

[Professor K]

On 8/4/2021 at 8:37 PM, Cat-Man_America said:

Very impressive art, ...superb cover recreation with exceptional color pop.  The consigner's matte choice could've been a bit less flamboyant (the blue supported by red and white under-mattes is great, but the alternating red and white corner slits seem a bit much).  That said, in the right frame under plexiglass this piece would be killer.  

It'll be interesting to see what the final hammer price will look like on a Schomburg piece of that calibre given today's heated market. 

Hey Cat-Man. 46K was way more than I had expected. I was thinking maybe 10. People really love that Shomburg stuff.

I mean this artwork by Sheldon Moldoff sold a few months back on CL for 1,925.

https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Ddetective%2Bcomics%26ItemType%3DCA%23Item_1458113&id=1458113&itemType=1#detail

Not even 2 grand. 4 measley percent of what this Shomburg piece went for. And its Moldoff, and Batman! And Moldoff might have been the actual cover artist of the original book which is kind of cool. Plus he really maintained his hand talent all those years later. 

Anyway 45,600.  My point - People really love Shomburg

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Professor K

[Robot Man]

On 9/12/2021 at 8:47 AM, Badger said:

Go for it, man! I collect across the entire spectrum so I'd love to see them!

OK, you asked for it... Here they are in all their beat up glory. 

[Robot Man]

For some reason, I think I like this one the best. 

[Badger]

On 9/12/2021 at 12:32 PM, Robot Man said:

OK, you asked for it... Here they are in all their beat up glory. 

Those look incredible to me!

[Badger]

On 9/12/2021 at 12:32 PM, Robot Man said:

For some reason, I think I like this one the best. 

I have a soft spot for covers that show television in the 40s. Seriously, special effects and everything! This Human Torch cover is also one of my favorites. Managed to snag it at an OafCon in Norman Oklahoma a few years ago.