Batman 1 CGC 9.4!!!! 6 6

[sfcityduck]

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

 

The only question which I have is that for the life of me, I simply can't figure out which one of these scans here would be more truly reflective of the book's real colors?  

Compare the label to a slab in hand.

[Gotham Kid]

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

7 hours ago, MasterChief said:

Took another deep dive into the digital abyss... came up with this.

The 3rd 9.0 image is presented as discovered. The 9.4 image is resized for the purpose of side-by-side comparison...

Hey Mitch;

It would appear that even Batman doesn't have the detective skills which you are able to amass in terms of digging up the original scan for this book.  

The only question which I have is that for the life of me, I simply can't figure out which one of these scans here would be more truly reflective of the book's real colors?  

The HA scan is slightly juiced up (no surprise there) but I'm sure the colors are vibrant nonetheless.

Aloha Mitch and thank you for the scan comparison.

Whether in 9.0 slab or 9.4 slab, beautiful book.

Edited November 26, 2020 by Gotham Kid

[lou_fine]

44 minutes ago, sfcityduck said:

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

 

The only question which I have is that for the life of me, I simply can't figure out which one of these scans here would be more truly reflective of the book's real colors?  

Compare the label to a slab in hand.

How can I when the CGC logo on the label for the slabbed copy on the right is just so blinding that I can't even read if it's been graded by CGC or by dare we say, PGX.  

[comicdonna]

7 hours ago, lou_fine said:

Hey Mitch;

It would appear that even Batman doesn't have the detective skills which you are able to amass in terms of digging up the original scan for this book.  

 

Mitch is the man.  

[zen514]

1.5 million  for The 9.4 Bats 1

Edited November 26, 2020 by zen514

[woowoo]

9 hours ago, lou_fine said:

Umm...................not referring to Mitch Mehdy in this post here, but @MasterChief himself as his real name is indeed Mitch.    

Sorry buddy I blame alcohol.  On my Defense  Mitch Mehdy was all over this post yesterday Happy Holidays to you and family 

Edited November 26, 2020 by woowoo

[Mmehdy]

12 hours ago, lou_fine said:

If this is the case and what actually took place, then it's all really on the buyer for not conducting their own due diligence because if they did, they would have found out that more than anything else, the only thing consistent with CGC's PQ designation is their absolute inconsistency.  

Lou: the video made for e-bay on the sale of Action 1 9.0 white pages..clearly shows super white pages...to me it is impossible for CGC to have not graded those pages otherwise..something had to have been done........in between grades...

[Mmehdy]

12 hours ago, lou_fine said:

If this is the case and what actually took place, then it's all really on the buyer for not conducting their own due diligence because if they did, they would have found out that more than anything else, the only thing consistent with CGC's PQ designation is their absolute inconsistency.  

At the time...I was unaware that somebody could juice up the Pages of a comic book to make them white.....I still am in a way...does anybody know the secret behind this....?

[batman_fan]

10 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

The HA scan is slightly juiced up (no surprise there) but I'm sure the colors are vibrant nonetheless.

Aloha Mitch and thank you for the scan comparison.

Whether in 9.0 slab or 9.4 slab, beautiful book.

Based on my copy and many copies I have seen, I will go with the scan on the left as being representative.

[Mmehdy]

11 hours ago, sfcityduck said:

I've didn't know that was possible.  But, I have submitted a subscription variant of WDC&S which garnered a 9.4 (white) because it did not have a crease.

I had seen earlier on the board some of this , but I had no idea so many of the Mega Keys are juiced up, pumped up and then hyped by the auction houses...yes every sale by the auction house increases GA prices and fees for the house...however in fairness to the buying public, especially GA/SA comic book collectors who do not know about this great board or do not take the time to really read and enjoy it. I had a idea that I would like some feedback with the board. The complete grading history be disclosed by the sellers, auctions houses, and dealers....in fairness and transparency to all. This would be done by Keeping the serial number of the graded GA book the SAME and being able to look on line for its entire CGC grading history. This would make sure that the buyers were aware of where the book had been and putting some sort of realistic valuation on your bidding process. Thoughts?...can it be done? Happy "Thanksgiving" to all..

Edited November 26, 2020 by Mmehdy

[woowoo]

12 minutes ago, Mmehdy said:

Lou: the video made for e-bay on the sale of Action 1 9.0 white pages..clearly shows super white pages...to me it is impossible for CGC to have not graded those pages otherwise..something had to have been done........in between grades...

CGC Certification Verification (cgccomics.com) WHITE as new

[Dark Knight]

10 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

12 hours ago, lou_fine said:

18 hours ago, MasterChief said:

Took another deep dive into the digital abyss... came up with this.

The 3rd 9.0 image is presented as discovered. The 9.4 image is resized for the purpose of side-by-side comparison...

Hey Mitch;

It would appear that even Batman doesn't have the detective skills which you are able to amass in terms of digging up the original scan for this book.  

The only question which I have is that for the life of me, I simply can't figure out which one of these scans here would be more truly reflective of the book's real colors?  

The HA scan is slightly juiced up (no surprise there) but I'm sure the colors are vibrant nonetheless.

Aloha Mitch and thank you for the scan comparison.

Whether in 9.0 slab or 9.4 slab, beautiful book.

Edited 10 hours ago by Gotham Kid

If I was the winner of the 9.4 Bats 1, I'd be unhappy that it is not the true representation of the actual colors of the book. The way HA juices up the front cover scan makes it look like a reprint.

[lou_fine]

37 minutes ago, Dark Knight said:

If I was the winner of the 9.4 Bats 1, I'd be unhappy that it is not the true representation of the actual colors of the book. The way HA juices up the front cover scan makes it look like a reglossed reprint.

A much more apt description just for you!!!  

[RareHighGrade]

50 minutes ago, Dark Knight said:

If I was the winner of the 9.4 Bats 1, I'd be unhappy that it is not the true representation of the actual colors of the book. The way HA juices up the front cover scan makes it look like a reprint.

Although the colors have probably been juiced to some extent, the 9.4 is also in the newer slab.  The newer slab presents a book's actual colors more accurately and favorably than the older slab.

[lou_fine]

10 minutes ago, RareHighGrade said:

Although the colors have probably been juiced to some extent, the 9.4 is also in the newer slab.  The newer slab presents a book's actual colors more accurately and favorably than the older slab.

I guess that's probably why I always thought books presented so much nicer in a clear mylar holder as opposed to those bulky industrial-like looking CGC holders.  

Though I will say that even the old CGC holders looked much better than those old real bulky fugly Fortress holders which were around in the old days. 

Edited November 26, 2020 by lou_fine

[Dark Knight]

22 minutes ago, RareHighGrade said:

1 hour ago, Dark Knight said:

If I was the winner of the 9.4 Bats 1, I'd be unhappy that it is not the true representation of the actual colors of the book. The way HA juices up the front cover scan makes it look like a reprint.

Although the colors have probably been juiced to some extent, the 9.4 is also in the newer slab.  The newer slab presents a book's actual colors more accurately and favorably than the older slab.

First time I've heard of this, but you may be right.  I do prefer the newer slabs, much more superior and sturdier, also the CGC label colors and texts are bolder and sharper compared to the previous labels making it easier to read from afar.  But, I highly doubt even in the newer slab, the Bats 1 9.4 does not have those kinds of colors going for it in person. Of course I could be wrong because I have not seen the book in person.  There are have been numerous known instances where HA does brighten up the scans of their books to possibly boost up the bidding activity realizing a higher hammer price. So, I will stick to the the buyer's first-hand accounts.

[G.A.tor]

2 hours ago, Mmehdy said:

Lou: the video made for e-bay on the sale of Action 1 9.0 white pages..clearly shows super white pages...to me it is impossible for CGC to have not graded those pages otherwise..something had to have been done........in between grades...

The 9.0 w action 1 was an 8.0 w as well. There was no pq change 

[lou_fine]

23 hours ago, astrometric said:

I'm pretty sure I have pics of all three CGC 9.0s on my backup drive which  I can't access at the moment. But for reference purposes if anyone was curious, here is the 9.2 graded now nearly a decade ago. I want to say this picture is at least six years old.

 

 

Not sure how the CGC grading works in terms of markings on the cover, as opposed to erasures.  

Just wondering if the erasure would have resulted in a bigger hit on the grading of the book, as opposed to leaving the original "S" marking on the book.   

From my own personal collector's point of view, I definitely would have prefer the original "S" marking as opposed to the intentionally made fugly erasure which just seems to stand out so much more. 

Edited November 26, 2020 by lou_fine

[lou_fine]

On 11/24/2020 at 8:44 AM, Crowzilla said:

On 11/24/2020 at 8:34 AM, batman_fan said:

but in all seriousness the 9.4 looks amazing

Agreed. Tiny color flakes that you have to go to 4x magnification to see don't bother me too much.

And yet if I remember correctly, the virtually impossible to tell micro-trim jobs by Jason was no better than "throw away destroyed books" once they were outed on these boards through side by side before and after scans which had to be magnified to something like the 64X degree in order to see the difference.    

Edited November 26, 2020 by lou_fine

[Dr. Love]

4 hours ago, Mmehdy said:

I had seen earlier on the board some of this , but I had no idea so many of the Mega Keys are juiced up, pumped up and then hyped by the auction houses...yes every sale by the auction house increases GA prices and fees for the house...however in fairness to the buying public, especially GA/SA comic book collectors who do not know about this great board or do not take the time to really read and enjoy it. I had a idea that I would like some feedback with the board. The complete grading history be disclosed by the sellers, auctions houses, and dealers....in fairness and transparency to all. This would be done by Keeping the serial number of the graded GA book the SAME and being able to look on line for its entire CGC grading history. This would make sure that the buyers were aware of where the book had been and putting some sort of realistic valuation on your bidding process. Thoughts?...can it be done? Happy "Thanksgiving" to all..

I understand Steve Eichenbaum is willing to discuss this, waiting on your call.

And as much as I would like the transparency,  I'd settle for something almost as elusive...Mitch, a pic of one comic you own. Just one.  Any one. It's been 10 years, tease doesnt begin to describe you!