tth2 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 There are 9.6 books, including Churches, that have even worse dust shadows. LDarkseid1, jimjum12, Badger and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) On 7/25/2021 at 10:03 AM, tth2 said: There are 9.6 books, including Churches, that have even worse dust shadows. Hey. There are situations when words simply aren't enough. This is one of them? Pix please. Edited July 25, 2021 by Pantodude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) On 7/25/2021 at 1:40 AM, LDarkseid1 said: You can get a 9.8 with these dust shadows? They aren’t production defects right? Maybe just subtle enough where didn’t affect the grade. I don't get it either. I've had books knocked down to 9.2 for similar issues. I have seen comparable dust shadows on 9.4s—many of the Mile Highs have some dust shadows on the back covers—but on 9.8s? Not that I can recall. I have seen Larsons with pretty bad foxing get fairly high grades, but never above 9.4. It seems like the bar for 9.8 has been lowered, as has the bar for 9.6. Edited July 25, 2021 by jimbo_7071 jimjum12 and LDarkseid1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) CGC has always had a soft spot for a nice dust shadow (as do I). Edited July 25, 2021 by ThothAmon jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chief1332 Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 What is that old line, about getting to the truth.. Follow the________! LDarkseid1, Larryw7, batman_fan and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Yeah I mean the only other explanation I can think of is there’s more leniency on pedigrees. And I mean that sincerely and not as a joke. Maybe pedigrees, knowing the level of insane books that managed to stay in high grade, some are allowed to still maintain very high grades with defects that normally might detract from the grade. I mean I probably wouldn’t have questioned it if it was a 9.6, definitely not a 9.4 because the book presents 9.8 otherwise. But who knows, maybe this one just slipped through the cracks. Tough to believe that though considering the book in question, so seems to me it was legitimately given. CGC must know something I don’t lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Dust shadows aren't allowed on CGC 10.0 books .... otherwise they can't be Mint ... Mint is original flawless state, the other lower grades are not. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) tth2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 The cap 36 went for $250k and the 46 for $160k. Doesn’t seem like a little old dust shadow bothers everyone like it does you and me jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreatCaesarsGhost Posted July 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 A happy story: I bought this expecting a dust shadow on the right side, but turns out it must have been just a scanning issue. No shadow! Point Five, vheflin, jbpez and 11 others 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 The recessed well of the newest slab will do that... but the trade-off is the greatly reduced vulnerability to scuffing of the slab. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Point Five and GreatCaesarsGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 10:40 PM, LDarkseid1 said: You can get a 9.8 with these dust shadows? They aren’t production defects right? Maybe just subtle enough where didn’t affect the grade. On 7/25/2021 at 4:51 AM, Ryan. said: Yikes. Like I have stated here many times before with respect to CGC's undisclosed grading standards which gives them the flexibility to change them at any point in time, they basically grade according to their current business agenda of the day and I believe we all know what the business agenda is when it comes to the Promise Collection and when Heritage is the submittor of these books here. PopKulture, goldust40 and Chief1332 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 6:04 AM, Straw-Man said: 6.5 if not a promise book. Well, I don't believe it would have gotten as low as a CGC 6.5, as this Dell File Copy here from 1939 managed to get into the 9.0's with its small lite dust shadow at the top: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/crackajack-funnies-9-file-copy-dell-1939-cgc-vf-nm-90-off-white-pages/a/830-91039.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 Then again, maybe it depends on who the consignor is as this book was regraded as a CGC 9.6 graded copy with the exact same noted defect still there almost a full decade later, before finally settling down into a CGC 9.8 slab after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lou_fine Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 6:04 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: I don't see this next round having the same class of books as the first round, so that will get factored in, I'm sure. Based upon the type of books (i.e. titles and time period) that we are seeing here in this second round already with still another 6 rounds to go, I don't see how they can even think of this pedigree in the same light as the Edgar Church Mile High collection of books. In fact, I was talking to a boardie for over a whole hour last week and he stated that he would take even the small Allentown Collection with its mere 135 books over this entire Promise Collection set of books which he thought was built up primarily upon hype by both Heritage and CGC in terms of their clear and obvious overgrading in comparison to the Church books. Sarg, jimbo_7071, Chief1332 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 10:21 PM, Pantodude said: On 7/25/2021 at 10:03 PM, tth2 said: There are 9.6 books, including Churches, that have even worse dust shadows. Hey. There are situations when words simply aren't enough. This is one of them? Pix please. This is the back cover of the Church Flash Comics #1. lou_fine, Pantodude, Black Bat and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 6:48 PM, tth2 said: This is the back cover of the Church Flash Comics #1. Wow. Thanks! Do you know the grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azkaban Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 If the grades on these Promise books are correct then everything in my collection must be either 9.6 or 9.8's, so I'm happy jimbo_7071, Tri-Color Brian, lou_fine and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:54 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Wow. Thanks! Do you know the grade? 9.6 GreatCaesarsGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 7:48 PM, tth2 said: This is the back cover of the Church Flash Comics #1. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 383 Promise collection books so far in the upcoming HA Sign auction including Superboy #1. 9.4...any guesses, record price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 With 383 books placed in the September Sig, 61 books in the weekly 8/1-2 and 49 so far in 8/8-9 and counting daily - it seems HA is moving up the originally talked about 1 1/2 year rollout into something denser, maybe a year tops, maybe even less than that. They've gauged the demand and acted quickly and accordingly. comicjack and Scrooge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
