Modern Grading Is Broken...Im done. 6 6

[JC25427N]

If anyone is having trouble with their grades...hmu 

 

 (Yeah I don't care I just made this same joke in another thread  It's funny everytime)

Edited August 27, 2022 by JC25427N

[Upgrayedd2]

On 8/27/2022 at 9:34 AM, Tnexus said:

I hate when people say this garbage. There's not a labor problem in this country, there's a wages problem. If you pay garbage wages, you're going to get garbage employees.

A full time CGC submission specialist makes $15-$17 an hour based on the CGC job listing. That's about $2350 a month minus taxes (approximate). A 1 bedroom apartment costs about $1300 a month in Fort Lauderdale. That's 54% of living expenses just in rent alone. That doesn't include school, food, gas, phone, bills, outings, family, etc. CGC can pull in almost $1000 alone with just one 25 modern FT submission that takes what? maybe three to four hours of total labor from start to finish?

So yeah, I wouldn't care either if I was being paid like that.

(Apologies for the tangent, now back to our scheduled post.)

My mom got her degree at a private university in California. She paid for her tuition by working during the summer and a few weeks during the winter break. That same university now charges $83,000 a year (tuition and room). Would love to see how many students (who now get loans) can generate that income with today's wages.

[MAR1979]

On 8/27/2022 at 3:47 PM, Upgrayedd2 said:

My mom got her degree at a private university in California. She paid for her tuition by working during the summer and a few weeks during the winter break. That same university now charges $83,000 a year (tuition and room). Would love to see how many students (who now get loans) can generate that income with today's wages.

In most cases if you can generate $83K for tuition+dorm working part time in after tax dollars then you probably have no need for the school in the first place.

I worked full time 6 Days a week, and went to school at night , back then I was making 2x minimum wage.  Now it would be impossible to pay for even one year at the same school by working 4 years full-time at that job. Based on posts here in this thread I'm lot younger than most of you - which means times have change radically just since the 1990's

Edited August 27, 2022 by MAR1979

[Ed Hanes]

Maybe some of the graders are quiet quitting 

[Gaard]

With all this talk about wages and generation mentality, I'm inclined to ask if there are any similarities of wages/flaws between CGC and the other grading companies.

[MAR1979]

On 8/27/2022 at 4:03 PM, Gaard said:

With all this talk about wages and generation mentality, I'm inclined to ask if there are any similarities of wages/flaws between CGC and the other grading companies.

Where PSA is based you really can't even keep yourself in instant Ramen for  $15-17 an hour. Tongue in cheek  yes but far closer to the truth than some would think.

Here is the thing in order to attract real talent you kind of need to be near where the talent live and pay appropriately.  Otherwise except for an occasional diamond in the rough all you get is rough. 

CGC/Blackstone is riding way high on the hog currently but things change.  Of course when the worm begins to turn Blackstone will simply sell them off....

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by MAR1979

[Nic8612]

I haven't been on the modern game for a while, but this inconsistency with them isn't anything new. Six or seven years ago I sent in an ASM 300 which I thought was a 9.0 but it came back a 6.0 with all kinds of flaws listed that were clearly not on the book. Sent it back to be regraded, no pressing....came back an 8.5

[Buzzetta]

On 8/27/2022 at 5:55 PM, Nic8612 said:

I haven't been on the modern game for a while, but this inconsistency with them isn't anything new. Six or seven years ago I sent in an ASM 300 which I thought was a 9.0 but it came back a 6.0 with all kinds of flaws listed that were clearly not on the book. Sent it back to be regraded, no pressing....came back an 8.5

That tells me that you received someone else's ASM 300 slab.  The book is yours but they might have switched the book with the slab somehow. 

 

That has happened before.  Someone recently posted that it happened with the Marv Wolfman signing but to a far more extreme degree.  He received two copies of the Titans 2 after only sending in one.

The thing is that the slab and certification were the same. He received someone else's book in a duplicate slab of his comic. 

 

If anyone else saw that, any update on how CGC was sorting that mess out? 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Buzzetta

[pirog]

Been CONSISTENTLY sending in books on a monthly basis for 3 years now and just within the last 3-4 months grades on modern 80's and 90's books and are ON AVERAGE 0.2-0.6 lower than the previous two years...I thought it was just me but seems  a few others are noticing this as well..undergrading is just as disheartening as overgrading

[Nic8612]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:00 PM, Buzzetta said:

That tells me that you received someone else's ASM 300 slab.  The book is yours but they might have switched the book with the slab somehow. 

 

That has happened before.  Someone recently posted that it happened with the Marv Wolfman signing but to a far more extreme degree.  He received two copies of the Titans 2 after only sending in one.

The thing is that the slab and certification were the same. He received someone else's book in a duplicate slab of his comic. 

 

If anyone else saw that, any update on how CGC was sorting that mess out? 

They switched the notes somewhere in the process with another book I think, because the book is 5x signed and all of that info was accurate on the label

[Atom Man]

On 8/26/2022 at 10:57 AM, NumminzAK said:

I’m done with this company.

Grading is Broken.

FIFY

You're not the only one that's done.  

Raw/self-graded is the new black.

[darkstar]

 Your books look much better in Mylar and there is no stupid number to obsess over.

[Nic8612]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:19 PM, darkstar said:

 Your books look much better in Mylar and there is no stupid number to obsess over.

Gotta disagree with you here. I think they look great in the slabs and I love the fact that the labels have various bits of info like the publisher and year, artists, etc

 

That being said, CGC is still on my poop list for now

[Dr. Balls]

On 8/27/2022 at 1:47 PM, Upgrayedd2 said:

My mom got her degree at a private university in California. She paid for her tuition by working during the summer and a few weeks during the winter break. That same university now charges $83,000 a year (tuition and room). Would love to see how many students (who now get loans) can generate that income with today's wages.

I am not sympathetic to that whatsoever. There's always cheaper universities - brainwashing impressionable young people into thinking they need to go to specific schools is one of the major issues with school debt, not to mention there is seemingly no limit to the amount of debt for school loans you can take out. That is a new concept within the past 20 years. In our city, there are two colleges where you can get a four-year degree for $15-$24k. Think that degree from Great Falls College won't stack up against Lower San Deigo School of Fancy People? Guess again - HR doesn't care where your degree is from as long as you have it for the job requirement. Employers are less focused on what school is on your degree and more concerned with what skills, experience, and knowledge. Somewhere along the line, people felt they had a gun held to their head about paying out the nose for tuition. You can still go to school, get a job to pay it off and get a degree without gaining 20 years of debt - regardless of how bad everyone wants you to believe that's not the case.

 

[kav]

On 8/26/2022 at 10:57 AM, NumminzAK said:

I’ve sent orders in the past that got a decent amount of cgc 9.8 for modern books. I paid for a third party presser for books that looked perfect in

the first place...my latest order didn’t have a single 9.8 out

of 25 books...and several got hit down to 8.5 for « light finger prints » with no other issues. My presser wears gloves and does great work and was responsible for a 24/25 9.8 submission in the past...there is just no way this is correct. My take is cgc has a bunch of untrained staff doing sloppy work. Here I sit with no recourse...cgc takes no

blame. I’m done with this company.

we're gonna need pics.  everyone thinks they got 9.8s.

[kav]

On 8/27/2022 at 12:58 PM, MAR1979 said:

On 8/27/2022 at 12:47 PM, Upgrayedd2 said:

My mom got her degree at a private university in California. She paid for her tuition by working during the summer and a few weeks during the winter break. That same university now charges $83,000 a year (tuition and room). Would love to see how many students (who now get loans) can generate that income with today's wages.

In most cases if you can generate $83K for tuition+dorm working part time in after tax dollars then you probably have no need for the school in the first place.

I worked full time 6 Days a week, and went to school at night , back then I was making 2x minimum wage.  Now it would be impossible to pay for even one year at the same school by working 4 years full-time at that job. Based on posts here in this thread I'm lot younger than most of you - which means times have change radically just since the 1990's

Tuition was around $300 a year or semester I cant remember which in the 80s at CSUS.  I worked 30 hours a week also.  According to this article the proximate causes of tuition inflation are familiar: administrative bloat, overbuilding of campus amenities, a model dependent on high-wage labor, and the easy availability of subsidized student loans.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prestoncooper2/2020/08/31/a-new-study-investigates-why-college-tuition-is-so-expensive/?sh=71b4d03717a0

I've seen how destructive administration bloat can be first hand.  Ps the best teachers I ever had in my math science field was at the junior college.  FAR superior to university.  When I transferred over to University and took placement test in biochem for example I was the top score.  Everyone else in that class had gone straight from high school to university.
It may be different today tho junior colleges hire many part time instructors to keep cost down with comparatively lower wages.

[kav]

[Buzzetta]

On 8/27/2022 at 9:21 PM, kav said:

Much like whoever introduced you to the internet, everyone is entitled to making a mistake from time to time. 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2022 by Buzzetta

[kav]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:42 PM, Buzzetta said:

Much like whoever introduced you to the internet, everyone is entitled to making a mistake from time to time. 

 

 

 

[kav]