Beware…Fake high value CGC books in Pacific Northwest 14 14

[namisgr]

Buying big ticket comics from reputable sources has always been useful.  Especially now, it would appear.

 

[thehumantorch]

On 2/20/2023 at 12:16 PM, Sigur Ros said:

I dunno...  I think it's time we address the elephant in the room...

Have we ruled out the idea that CGC actually graded these fake covers full of copy paper and just missed it?

I mean... would anyone be surprised at this point?

🤙

That's just silly.

[Mr. Zipper]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:18 PM, VintageComics said:

Thanks, Richie!

I just wasn't sure if Conan wanted it shared or not due to the police investigation but since you've shared it these are the pics of the slabs from the email. 

 

 

Seriously? It’s obvious the corners have been tampered with. So this is a garden variety crack the case and slip in a fake label and book? Not exactly an undetectable counterfeit  

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:30 PM, thehumantorch said:

That's just silly.

Gee, ya think?

[VintageComics]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:36 PM, Mr. Zipper said:

Seriously? It’s obvious the corners have been tampered with. So this is a garden variety crack the case and slip in a fake label and book? Not exactly an undetectable counterfeit  

I can see how not everyone would catch it off the bat, as many dealers miss even obvious restoration attempts on their own inventory but it is comforting to know that it wasn't as professional looking or as invisible as we were initially led to believe. 

Edited February 20, 2023 by VintageComics

[october]

On 2/20/2023 at 1:20 PM, 10centcomics said:

In part 3 of the Facebook post, it is mentioned that there is a fake Captain American Comics 1 cover (see pic below). Is this the same cover as the one mentioned in this Golden Age board thread? 

 

 

Same cover. Good catch. 

[WolverineX]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:56 PM, october said:

Same cover. Good catch. 

so, into the rabbit hole we go...

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 2/20/2023 at 3:00 PM, WolverineX said:

so, into the rabbit hole we go...

I’m lost 

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:56 PM, october said:

Same cover. Good catch. 

How are you sure..?

[rexinnih]

Damn, live North of Seattle and had visions later in life of selling off my collection. When the time comes, and if I'm thinking of buying some higher priced books, will need to make sure to review closely. 

[october]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:22 PM, Sigur Ros said:

How are you sure..?

Look at the two pics. Same defects, etc. Stains on the cover are identical. 

The owner also confirmed it. 

Edited February 20, 2023 by october

[godzilla43]

Yeah who would question the authenticity of that ASM 1 slab when the seller also have a raw Cap 1 cover.

Edited February 20, 2023 by godzilla43

[WolverineX]

On 2/20/2023 at 3:39 PM, godzilla43 said:

Yeah who would question the authenticity of that Spider-man  1 slab when the seller also have a raw Cap 1 cover.

that raw Cap 1 looked legit though... geez... most of us read that thread and no one even mentioned that it looked like a fake...

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 2/20/2023 at 3:34 PM, october said:

Look at the two pics. Same defects, etc. Stains on the cover are identical. 

The owner also confirmed it. 

How does it end up being a freebie?

[WolverineX]

On 2/20/2023 at 4:03 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

How does it end up being a freebie?

That is what I was wondering. Did he buy it from the guy who got the fake book or did the actual counterfeiter give it to him...

[Dark Knight]

At some point these fake labels and slabs are bound to happen.  It's already caused a frenzy in the card world with fake PSA flips, something I've experienced first hand and been duped unfortunately.  And like someone else mentioned, in the coin world. Not to mention fake watches such as Rolexes have been around for a long time now, but now the top of the line 1/1 superclones look and feel exactly like the real thing. Only difference is you have to open the case of the watch and check out the movement. 

[Sigur Ros]

On 2/20/2023 at 3:34 PM, october said:

Look at the two pics. Same defects, etc. Stains on the cover are identical. 

The owner also confirmed it. 

Ok, couldn't see all that on my phone.  Thx

[milk_man]

My first thought was someone got their hands on CGC's mistakes. I've had multiple books where the case wasn't glued together at all. To top things off, the holographic sticker is on holder and not the label. Nothing stopping me from printing my own label, shoving in any book I want and gluing it together. How many opened slabs do you think are out there just waiting to be used to make a six-figure payday?

[Cat]

On 2/21/2023 at 4:28 AM, MR. Pontoon said:

But again what about some due diligence or just some common sense? There’s about as much chance of a copy of Hulk #1 or Cap #1 offered at fraction of FMV from an unknown person on social media being legit as the Rolodex some guy is selling on a street corner.

 

Are fake Rolodex's in high demand? 

'Hi John, this is Larry, Peter's 2pm..... *giggles*'. 

[universal soldier]

Holy . I spent a good 10 minutes and could barely see the difference with the labels. Those pics of the doctored slab are pretty obvious and I would like to think that when dealing with any high end books like those, I would have things under a microscope. This is concerning for sure though...