Most Overgraded Comic Of The Week 8 8

[FoggyNelson]

On 9/10/2023 at 3:00 AM, grendelbo said:

"High grade" romance to "high grade" romance.

Say it ain’t so😡

[Hudson]

Giving this well deserved thread a bump in hopes someone will post a book that will give us all a good laugh; sometimes you just need a good laugh. 

[grendelbo]

Ok.

[trademarkcomics]

On 9/22/2023 at 3:56 PM, grendelbo said:

Ok.

Over the past decade, overgrading has become so rampant on eBay that I found myself moving more and more to rare insert, error and slabbed books. Because I would end up with my mid-grade books priced way higher than advertised "VF to NM" books, so they would just sit there.

Now, I will say that I feel a lot of this is due to lazy ad making and not necessarily blatant false advertising. A lot of inexperienced sellers will just copy other ads, not realizing they are not even close on the grade in the title/description. If you simply drop them a message, they will probably change their ads. 

[Shazbot]

At that price I guess this grades around 8.0 or better. IDK, more pics needed imo. But hey, free shipping!

[zzutak]

On 9/24/2023 at 8:26 AM, trademarkcomics said:

Now, I will say that I feel a lot of this is due to lazy ad making and not necessarily blatant false advertising. A lot of inexperienced sellers will just copy other ads, not realizing they are not even close on the grade in the title/description. If you simply drop them a message, they will probably change their ads. 

Possibly.  But will the seller change his/her approach to life in general?  Will the seller actually become detail-oriented when it comes to completing a task at work or trimming a hedge at home?  Will the seller now become honest when dealing with his/her spouse and/or other business/personal contacts?  Will the seller suddenly be able to see the difference between half-assed and perfection?  Highly doubtful, unless the seller is still less than about 7~8 years old. 

[trademarkcomics]

On 9/24/2023 at 10:00 AM, zzutak said:

Possibly.  But will the seller change his/her approach to life in general?  Will the seller actually become detail-oriented when it comes to completing a task at work or trimming a hedge at home?  Will the seller now become honest when dealing with his/her spouse and/or other business/personal contacts?  Will the seller suddenly be able to see the difference between half-assed and perfection?  Highly doubtful, unless the seller is still less than about 7~8 years old. 

And here I thought all of my hard work was changing the world... 

Edited September 25, 2023 by trademarkcomics

[grendelbo]

NM. So that'd be 9.4, right?

 

 

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[grendelbo]

Fine+. 6.5 

 

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[grendelbo]

8.5 is high grade man!

 

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[grendelbo]

Another NM 9.4. 

 

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[grendelbo]

7.5 VF- 

 

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[trademarkcomics]

On 9/24/2023 at 8:46 PM, grendelbo said:

7.5 VF- 

 

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Not even if you ignore the extensive math and doodles on the back cover...

That math looks pretty dubious. 

"Should I carry the one? Nahhhhh..." 

[Ken Aldred]

On 9/24/2023 at 5:30 PM, Shazbot said:

At that price I guess this grades around 8.0 or better. IDK, more pics needed imo. But hey, free shipping!

The Chipping there is horrendous.

[Ken Aldred]

On 9/25/2023 at 4:40 AM, grendelbo said:

Another NM 9.4. 

 

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Looking at the back cover, there’s significant water warping, and I suspect that N / M is not a grade but indicates that it’s another example of the Namor Collection Pedigree.

[southern cross]

On 9/24/2023 at 8:40 PM, grendelbo said:

Another NM 9.4. 

 

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On 9/25/2023 at 8:09 AM, Ken Aldred said:

Looking at the back cover, there’s significant water warping, and I suspect that N / M is not a grade but indicates that it’s another example of the Namor Collection Pedigree.

Namor and his insistence on reading literature in a aquatic environment. 

[LearnedHand]

Some observations:

• Sellers have over-graded books well before ebay existed. I think a lot of people who’ve entered the hobby after the advent of CGC, or that can’t recall the pre-2000 hobby, forget how often sellers at shows (or mail order) would substantially overgrade. I was recently reminded of this at a show where an old school seller was set up with all non-slabbed books.  He had, among other very over-graded books, a Detective 140 with chippy pages, stained f/c (with oil that made the cover, in areas, translucent), super rusty staples with 3/4” staple tears into the f/c, some black mold on both covers, very worn corners, edges, and spine.  He had this graded as a F/VF and priced by highest GPA recorded sale price.  A collector, who wanted to buy this book, was trying to point out to the seller how these defects clearly take the book out of F/VF range. The seller’s retort was that he had been grading far longer than CGC, the book is rare, and if someone doesn’t like his grading grade or price, they don’t have to buy it. 

 

• There are no professional graders.  Last I checked, there’s no curriculum at any accredited institution where one can achieve a comic book grading certificate or diploma for this (part science, part art, part subjective) skill. All we have ever had, since the dawn of people collecting and distinguishing between nicer/crummier copies, is evolving opinions based on gained and shared experiences, and varying degrees of talent or personal interest.  We know this, as there are myriad threads and discussion about how often sellers as well as even the so-called experts get it wrong. 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by LearnedHand

[grendelbo]

On 9/25/2023 at 1:16 PM, LearnedHand said:

Last I checked, there’s no curriculum at any accredited institution where one can achieve a comic book grading certificate or diploma for this (part science, part art, part subjective) skill.

After making the cut here -

 

I made this for myself. Does it count?

 

[Motor City Rob]

For just $150, you could own this NM- beauty!!!

I actually messaged the seller and asked if the 9.2 in the title was a mistake, and he got super offended, reminded me that I'm not a professional grader, and "politely" told me to go away. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Yorick]

On 9/25/2023 at 3:06 PM, Motor City Rob said:

Perfect back cover for that seller.