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On 5/1/2024 at 1:50 PM, Axelrod said:
Didn't CGC publish a grading guide recently? Were rusty staples not covered in it?
I don't have a copy, but would be interested to see what it says on the matter if anyone else does.
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I love this.
I thought I'd search around for other 1959 WDL books, to see if there were any other Dell UKPV heralding ads, and I happened across this western digest:
The back cover is for the shilling titles that were carrying the UKPV ad, including my Flash #3, so I bought it blind just to see what was inside.
A Pat trip later and what do we have but another, digest size 'coming in March' ad:
Trouble is, the Gunlaw is dated 1958 (or MCMLVIII in old money).
So which 'March' are talking about here?
The GCD says the Gunlaw reprints the April/May '59 Gunsmoke #14 by Dell:
https://www.comics.org/issue/105618/#357908
1958 books don't tend to reprint 1959 books so I can only assume that the date in the Gunlaw is wrong, and should be 1959. Or MCMLIX, in old money.
Either way, great to find another confirming advert for Dell UKPVs.
All good fun
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On 5/1/2024 at 2:01 AM, skypinkblu said:I had it at 6.5, wanted to make it a 6.0. I wanted to make the Secret Wars a really low number because not even "I" would buy a book with that kind of centerfold rust...then I lost a few more overgrading books after the last round where we had a 9.6 that I couldn't see as more than a 9.0.
8 points. I knew it was a disaster after I saw that video CGC put out last night...talking about grading a book by how it appears and not needing any training...unfortunately I saw that after I submitted my grades, lol. That video was scary.
I went 6.5 too, basing that decision on CGC's own grading scale:
6.5 was much higher than I would have graded it myself, were I ever selling it, but the point of this contest has always been to guess what the CGC grade is, not your own. To me, that's a major defect whichever way you look at it, and one which will degrade further over time. I'm confident that 98% of buyers would either avoid this book if they new about the hidden damage or be devastated by it if they cracked it open having bought it.
Giving it an 8.0 basically says that the CGC grader thinks that staple rust that has migrated through the pages is a 'moderate defect'. And now I see a video from a CGC employee saying - if I heard it right - that she grades books by eye appeal. Not a great advert for CGC.
I'm getting to the point where I think my score for this competition will be more than the previous five combined. On we go though, eh.
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On 4/30/2024 at 6:15 PM, Ride the Tiger said:Like someone scored 4 bullseyes.
Stop it, you're embarrassing me.
On 4/30/2024 at 6:15 PM, Ride the Tiger said:Or someone missed a single grade by 14 points.
And leave @ADAMANTIUM alone.
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On 4/30/2024 at 4:56 PM, trademarkcomics said:
Well, hell has frozen over...the entire set is on eBay.
What? You're not selling are you, TM? Tell me I've misread that
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On 4/29/2024 at 10:51 PM, Albert Tatlock said:
Did anyone else hear this?
Nay.
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On 4/29/2024 at 11:29 PM, Telegan said:
Keefer did the interior artwork for the story "Monju Island" for sure (see screenshot below from CB+). He even signed it, but no such signature on the cover. Also found this earlier where they mention that Al Gordon did work for the Monty Hall of the US Marines title, but I don't think GCD mentions him anywhere (unless I missed it). Could just be that GCD is wrong. Who knows?
Maybe he added the top of the lookout tower roof...
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On 4/29/2024 at 10:54 PM, IngelsFan said:
Well done. GCD says Mel Keefer for the cover artist. I wonder how Marcus - Gordon fits in then (absent from the finished cover)?
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On 4/29/2024 at 6:42 PM, Malacoda said:
I suspect his memories are as good it we'll ever get, but I'm not convinced he's a reliable narrator. From the 2015 interview:
Will: Were there any connections between yourself and [the other UK publishers of Marvel, DC etc] .
AC: No there were no connections whatsoever. I didn't come into contact with any of them. The only sad part was when Mr. Miller past away....they asked would you be interested in having a look at what was in the warehouse. I said yes. I remember being shown in and it was just like the vultures had been there. There was nothing at all. So that was it, no, I didn't come into contact.
However, right through the 60's, his comics were printed in Oadby by Jensons, which was owned by T&P. It seems odd to me that having been asked if there were any connections to World, Miller and the other publishers, he doesn't mention this 12 year connection to Thorpe & Porter. Either he's forgotten or he never knew that T&P owned Jensons.
Maybe his memory just needs jogging.
Yes, there are probably fans out there who know more about the history of The Beatles than the two remaining members do. That's the way of it. It's one of the reasons that I've always taken donkeys years old recollections with a pinch of salt. Apart from people like Albert's of course, who wrote stuff down.
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On 4/29/2024 at 5:12 PM, Telegan said:
From what I've been able to find so far, and assuming it's two different people as @Get Marwood & I suggested, it could be Mo/Moe/Morris Marcus and Al Gordon who seemed to have worked together on a few stories back during that era (40s-60s). They both worked on war-related stories, as well.
We're getting there.....
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On 4/29/2024 at 9:18 AM, zzutak said:I'll repeat what I said here: this race is gonna be all peloton, no breakaway, unless we see some low/mid-grade specimens. Hence, I think it's entirely possible that 6~12 contestants are tied for the lead just prior to the Tiebreaker Round. Maximum bunching is a feature common to most contests that test only one or two skills (like counting spine ticks and color breaks). Think Tour de France, but with no mountain stages that test the full range of each rider's fitness/skill.
At the half-way point, we have 27 contestants within 3 points of the lead (
) and 58 players within 6 points of the lead (which I believe is an all-time high).
It should be a fun finish, zzu.
When it's all over, we may find that grading the actual books was easier than working out who to give 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 6th to
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Holidaying in the United States of Kingdom, judging by the weather...
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On 4/29/2024 at 12:30 AM, Malacoda said:
Wow. Nice. Yes, it would almost be worth the money just for the chat. I have a horrible feeling that all the questions I would like to ask him, he would long have forgotten the answers to.
Maybe we should put a few together and I'll send them to him, what do you think? If you haven't already seen it, there's a good interview in From The Tomb #18 and 19 which gives a flavour of what he remembers (albeit 20 years ago). And the 30th Century video interview from 2015 of course.
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I posted this over in the Alan thread, but those of you who don't go there might like to see it - or even buy it...
On 4/28/2024 at 6:44 AM, Get Marwood & I said:Classy item on the 30th Century website this morning:
I'm sorely tempted, if only to spend 30 minutes on Zoom with the man himself!
How cool would that be!
Great to see he's still with us, and looking good
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On 4/28/2024 at 5:11 PM, Malacoda said:
Just tried to amend it and no matter how many times I deleted the picture AND the one in 'choose files' at the bottom, it just kept putting it back in.
The boards can be quirky like that sometimes Rich. Sounds like you tried this, but make sure you delete the image in the body of the post itself, but also in the 'choose files' field too (see below):
That usually does it.
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Fellow participants! Last year I won the sixth contest and bagged a $500 grading credit that I'm never going to use. With Mike's blessing, I would like to offer that $500 credit to whoever comes sixth in this, current contest. Six is a favourite number of mine, if you hadn't already guessed.
So, let it be known - if you want to win some grading credits, try to come first, second, third or sixth this time.
Good luck to everyone and thanks to Mike for agreeing to the transfer
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On 4/28/2024 at 12:49 PM, CGC Mike said:
Apology accepted, Steve. I am ready to move along like it never happened. There is no need to punish yourself. You have been a great help to me with these contests.
Thanks Mike, it was a silly thing to do, but I won't die in a ditch over it
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On 4/17/2024 at 7:50 PM, Get Marwood & I said:
The picture above is from the eBay listing I won - I'll replace it when the book arrives
Here it is, along with my copy of Flash Space Age Comic #3:
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Flash Gordon Space Age Comic #3, dated MCMLIX, 'Now on Sale' back cover.There are other WDL titles to check, Brick Bradford and Manhunt being two, but I've only found the 'Commencing in March' blurb on the Crime-Buster #2 so far. The ad appears on the last four issues in the six book Flash run, and the 'Now on Sale' wording appears on all of them.
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Classy item on the 30th Century website this morning:
I'm sorely tempted, if only to spend 30 minutes on Zoom with the man himself!
How cool would that be!
Great to see he's still with us, and looking good
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On 4/28/2024 at 1:32 AM, Malacoda said:
Indeed. I think it came up a buttload of times. I certainly captured it a few. As you said about Albert's one (though that 9d and Albert's one are not the same comic).
I think you misunderstood me Richmond - in your post with all the copies, the first and last copies are the same 9d stamped image. I thought that was by mistake.
On 4/28/2024 at 1:32 AM, Malacoda said:Yes, yes and I believe it did.
Consensus!
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On 4/28/2024 at 1:19 AM, CGC Mike said:This is overly harsh. If I am wrong, there will be no more contests. A ton of time and money are put into these. No point in doing them if they are not enjoyable.
I'm sorry Mike, you're right, that was overly harsh. Please don't let my isolated comment influence your thinking and please do carry on. Apologies to everyone who read it too. I'll go and lie down in a darkened room for a while, after a self-enforced spell on the naughty step.
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On 4/27/2024 at 11:05 PM, Yorick said:
except that one without the numbering. just a big circle 10d
Probably an after-market sale?
Who knows, Yoz. Miller occasionally used branded and unbranded 6d stamps. Maybe there was a reason for that, or significance to them, maybe there wasn't. I've not studied the ones that appear during T&P stamping runs to any great degree to reasonably determine if they are even theirs.
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2024 Grading Contest Spring Edition Season 3 (#10) Round 3
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This is one of the areas where I am miles away from CGC. I understand the desire to give a book the best grade it deserves, but I would never give a book like this an 8.0:
Rusted staples are degenerative under the wrong conditions, and I just can't get behind the degrees of severity thing which allows books to be graded as high when the staples are sufficiently degraded to have stained the pages all the way through to the back cover. Flaws like water damage, trimming, mould and rusted staples should really have grade points beyond which they cannot go, regardless of eye appeal.
If you asked 100 collectors to buy that book, as an 8.0, and then cracked it open, how many of them would be satisfied seeing that rust do you think? How many would say "Yes, that level of rust is consistent with an 8.0 grade"? Still, that's what CGC do and they're a private company. Matt has a lot of experience, but it doesn't mean others have to agree with the standards that he unilaterally commits to paper.