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^how many check books through side of slab... not many - I know i did not and was shocked and disgusted with 90 %  of my 2024 graded 9.8s when I did. 

Again all mine were purchased from different sellers making it a mathematical impossibility for it to be bad luck.

Damage to the books will increase as long as they remain in the warped wells.

Newport Beach is approaching

@greggy you submit Metric Ton of book a month.  Look at the spines of your 2024 submissions. You are likely affected at similar clips as everyone who's posted here. 

I too figured it was one or 2 folks who were unlucky but after checking found my affected percentage is 90% and all books were purchased from different sellers

You may not want this to be true but it is...look at your 2024 graded books man... then consider revising your reaction to my previous posting.

On 8/1/2024 at 1:09 PM, LordRahl said:

This isn't a good explanation but I suppose it's possible that 2 people mistakenly looked at the Newsstand GPA prices of the book, which are coincidentally around $4600 

I've seen this on many CLINK books over the years. Some go for way more than FMV , while sometimes books go for way below. 

Just this week I've won 3 books from CLINK at 40-50% below GPA and lost out on others that went for 2x GPA and can be had for less money as BIN's on eBay. AKA the usual for me

Anyone else seeing what I'm seeing with the spine ticks?  If it is the situation the book will get worse. possibly before this month is over...

  Grade Date

07/01/2024

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From Evanier's Blog:

we have reports of another kind of disease at Comic-Con…

Fourteen people were arrested and 10 victims of sex trafficking were rescued — including a 16-year-old girl — in a sting operation at the Comic-Con International convention in San Diego, California, last week, officials said Thursday.

If you read the reports, it's clear that Comic-Con itself was in no way involved or responsible. It's just the kind of operation that thrives on events that attract people in certain age groups. It was probably way more prevalent in San Diego back when it was more of a "Navy town" than it is these days. We don't have (or need) many more details than that.

A friend at the con also told me that there was a legal brothel just over the border in Tijuana that was advertising special discounts if you showed them your Comic-Con badge. Mine said "Invited Guest" on it so I wonder what I could have gotten down there — apart from something much worse than COVID.

Wonder how many of the Comic Selling/Dealing Members here were perp walked or frog marched out of SDCC in the sting

On 7/31/2024 at 6:49 PM, musicmeta said:

  Roy!  Welcome Back!

As I ask each time this occurs whats the over/under? 

On 7/27/2024 at 1:13 PM, MadGenius said:

Thanks. In your opinion, do the grades on the label match the books? My fear is CGC will continue to deny this is even a problem 

That is exactly what has occurred.  Ostrich method may have worked in past but the approaching Newport Beach/Santa Ana faction may very well represent a seismic paradigm shift.

On 7/31/2024 at 12:46 PM, DaveSFU said:

Good news everyone.  This no longer is considered damage and will get you a 9.8

That book looks like a 8.0 that I would instantly pass over

I had hoped for a better response from CGC, but sadly expected the one you got.

Newport Beach is coming! 

On 7/30/2024 at 8:52 PM, PeterPark said:

2nd gen slab, really?

Yep, really! At least for sub-set of collectors

1) No Newton Rings
2) No Inner Well warping
3) No Inner Well notches to crush books
4) Near zero risk of Shaken comic syndrome.

Highly recommend you read through - then check all books you may have that were slabbed so far in 2024. Check for bending due to inner wells,  as well as back of book denting/crushing due to the absurd too short  top and bottom bars that in effect create 4 deadly notches.

On 7/30/2024 at 2:18 PM, comic_memories said:

Sold a few days ago at auction for $1,521.

perfect wrap and 2nd gen slab. There are a subset of collectors who are willing to pay more for either of those things.

@greggy

Have you read through this thread? Curious to know what you think and estimated percentage of your submitted books that have been affected.

Important to note most were not aware of the issue until reading about it here. I for one had not previously looked at books through side of slabs. When I did found 100% of my regular thickness sized Comics slabbed in 2024 are affected.

On 7/30/2024 at 4:05 PM, Ninja0215 said:

Then  side note: only send modern books to cgc.

If only it were that simple, I don't do Modern

For me this has quickly become a depressing paradigm changer.  Yet another thing in life to add to the "is no more" pile.

I hope that at some future juncture there will be a good slab/grade date for safe purchase. Right now my personal arbitrary cut-off is nothing slabbed after Dec 14 2023. I'm removed all pending bids and "watch's" I've had for recent slabs as well as put all my pending raw submission books back into the boxes from which they were pulled.  As I said this is depressing to me on multiple levels.

P.S. Any one know if Magazine sized slabs are affected?

I had a great Comic Room growing up, it would be priceless to me to have some pics. Really wish I have been as sentimental then as I am now. Even my Mom referred to it as My Comic Book Room and often asked why I could not keep my bedroom even half as neat and organized. I do miss her so very much... Folks if you are blessed to still have your Mom give her a call today and know she'll appreciate it.

"More Important" on non Modern Age was whichever RMO had the most in stock to sell. For modern its seemingly whatever a cadre of youtubers or gocollect type hyperbolists have most in stock to sell.

On 7/30/2024 at 11:40 AM, LordRahl said:

I had about a dozen squarebounds in the submission I had that I originally posted about. None of them were affected. Could be a coincidence but I don't really believe in coincidences like that. More likely, the squarebounds are too thick for the well to be able to bend them. 

That is a most certainly plausible.

Or not same exact inner well as for standard thickness comics?

I'm sure other possible reasons exist...

On 7/29/2024 at 5:57 PM, Parabellum said:

Sent you a private message.

@jstam I have as well

Is that where the Oysters come from?

On 7/29/2024 at 3:01 PM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

Done! 

Hi, What needs to done exactly ? 

On 7/29/2024 at 12:52 PM, DaveSFU said:

Well so far, despite CS telling me over and over that the Exceptions team would reach out to me once they looked at my books,  nobody did.  2 of my 4 ME submissions (24 books) went from "Scheduled For Grading" all the way through to "Shipped" in the span of about 2 hours this morning.   They all still have the same grades, which isnt possible given the damage some of them had and that CCS didnt have their hands on them.   So looks like im just getting back damaged and reholdered books with inaccurate grades?   And probably still in warped inner wells.  

Not saying you will but many will simply sell off the affected books in this situation. 

That means unless one can see a 2024 slabbed book in hand its not safe to purchase. IIRC one of the Charter messages of CGC was to prevent having to do that in the online era...

IMHO CGC is not being wise at this point in time in opening up a huge lane for PSA to convoy down