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Corona smith

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Satellite Falling from IDW is seeing some small increases. IDW Released an article on a few newly optioned comics. Bacchus which I’d never heard of was also another one but that’s not a modern book. Both seemed like an interesting read. 
 

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On 12/7/2022 at 11:27 AM, 500Club said:

Yep.  And X-Factor 23/24. 

 22 and 23 nothing on the either label. 24 gets the 1st appearance label.  Thanks for pointing this out. I will ask CGC on fixing this.

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On 12/6/2022 at 6:46 PM, catch21 said:

No, I am saying using "cameo" as a verbal shortcut  for "1st appearance in cameo" confuses people. It is not widely understood. So far we had two people in this comic book thread define the dictionary version of cameo. None of the grading companies use or say the shortcut incorrectly in their labels.

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On 12/8/2022 at 5:37 AM, THE_BEYONDER said:

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Camel: "An even-toed ungulate in the genus Camelus that bears distinctive fatty deposits known as "humps" on its back."

Oops. My apology, wrong website.

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On 12/7/2022 at 2:23 PM, PeterPark said:

Hulk 181 is an immediate example where the market decided that was the first appearance despite the previous appearance in 180. The price reflects that decision.

The market doesn't decide whether something is a first appearance. No amount of disparity in value is going to change the fact that Wolverine first appears on the last page of Hulk 180. The market only decides how much that brief appearance should be valued compared to the full story and first cover appearance in 181. It's really not that difficult a concept to grasp. Amazing how many people seem to be unable to do so.

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On 12/5/2022 at 1:55 AM, catch21 said:

If Amazing Spider-man 299 is 1st appearance in cameo of Venom with more panels, this should be 2nd Cameo appearance not 1st full. Damian's name is not revealed until Batman 657 which should be the 1st full appearance.

Love the cover to #657

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On 12/7/2022 at 1:55 PM, catch21 said:

Again, name a book where the Value changed the appearance. None of you done that yet.  I did not talk about supply and demand. You are misquoting me.

Conan 23.

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On 12/8/2022 at 10:06 AM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

The market doesn't decide whether something is a first appearance. No amount of disparity in value is going to change the fact that Wolverine first appears on the last page of Hulk 180. The market only decides how much that brief appearance should be valued compared to the full story and first cover appearance in 181. It's really not that difficult a concept to grasp. Amazing how many people seem to be unable to do so.

Finally. Thank You Hopefully the way you explained it. They will get it.

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On 12/8/2022 at 3:43 PM, catch21 said:

Your proof says  exactly what a cameo is "Guest appearance by famous/character". It does not mention anything about "First appearance".

A cameo can’t be a first appearance.  You can’t make a cameo, if no one knows who you are.

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On 12/8/2022 at 2:28 AM, Corona smith said:

Satellite Falling from IDW is seeing some small increases. IDW Released an article on a few newly optioned comics. Bacchus which I’d never heard of was also another one but that’s not a modern book. Both seemed like an interesting read. 
 

Here’s the article. 
 

https://www.gamesradar.com/idw-developing-six-new-properties-for-tv/

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On 12/6/2022 at 6:19 PM, catch21 said:

I did.   1. Green Lantern 25 was the higher value  for three years and was labeled 1st appearance of Jessica Cruz. Later it was changed 1st appearance in Cameo.  Justice League 31 is now labeled  1st full appearance of Jessica Cruz. Later the higher value changed Justice League 31.   2. Batman 655 labeled as 1st appearance in cameo Daiman  Wayne. Batman 656 labeled 1st full appearance of Daimen Wayne. The higher value remains Batman #655. 

Give me a time where the higher Value made the grading companies  or overstreet  change 1st appearance in cameo to 1st appearance.   Value and the type of appearance are independent. 

The value of those two books is the result of them having the rarest variants among all the issues up for consideration as the first appearance. Batman 656 is cheaper than Batman 655 because that issue has no variant, but 655 has the 1:10 incentive. Justice League 31 combopack is the rarest variant of any Jessica Cruz first appearance book. The regular covers are propped up by the price the variant commands. Also 655 was one of CBSI's babies because the owner loved the character, and he hyped that book for half a decade proclaiming Damian to be the next big thing.  

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On 12/8/2022 at 6:23 PM, darkstar said:

The value of those two books is the result of them having the rarest variants among all the issues up for consideration as the first appearance. Batman 656 is cheaper than Batman 655 because that issue has no variant, but 655 has the 1:10 incentive. Justice League 31 combopack is the rarest variant of any Jessica Cruz first appearance book. The regular covers are propped up by the price the variant commands. Also 655 was one of CBSI's babies because the owner loved the character, and he hyped that book for half a decade proclaiming Damian to be the next big thing.  

So your not counting the newsstands editions which are much rarer than any of the combo or ratio variants?!

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On 12/9/2022 at 4:14 AM, Corona smith said:

So your not counting the newsstands editions which are much rarer than any of the combo or ratio variants?!

Why would I count them? They are a niche and the difference in print run from issue to issue within a title is negligible most of the time.  

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