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[sonicyouth]

Sandman 4 is on the move again. Sold 2 copies in the last few weeks.

 

good to hear, filling out my Sandman run (1-75) and 70's Vampirella run next,

Sandman will be the easy one, Vampirella might take a little bit.. sifitng through marvel magazine bins last 2 days turned me on to Vampirella and Savage Sword for sure.. cool books. now I have to complete those runs..

 

I just filled out New Mutants 1-100 run from 50 cent - dollar bins, surprised to see lots of #1's floating about for a few bucks each, will probably change after weekend.

 

If anyone wants to make the trek to Elwood city to Todd's Warehouse there is at least a shortbox full of New Mutants #1 in the unsorted marvel section floating about... it usually takes a few weeks before locals grab all the keys..

 

Out of 6 shops, found 1 MGN 4. luckily it was in VF/NM 9.2 unread for only $5 bucks! I let the clerks know but they didn't care.

 

good hunting!

 

 

 

 

 

[oakman29]

Damn RMA you're pizzing everyone off tonight.

[Citizenvain]

Is that quote in your sig line from the same RMA on these boards?

[Hamlet]

 

Right. I got you. The whole world is wrong and only you are right.

 

So here is the actual poop that you dropped in another thread:

 

"$900, $5000, $1,000,000, none of that matters. It's all built on a foundation of nothingness. The book isn't worth that kind of money, and the only reason it sells for that kind of money is because GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

 

And when the bottom falls out, then what?

 

Jay, do you mind me asking how old you are?

 

I've watched three market bubbles inflate and pop up close in my lifetime. The 90s comic market, the dot com bubble, and the housing bubble. Those aren't the only bubbles that have occurred in that time, they are just the ones that I was paying close attention to. The whole world is actually totally wrong fairly frequently.

 

Do you really think these kind of prices are sustainable?

 

[oakman29]

Is that quote in your sig line from the same RMA on these boards?

 

It sure is. He's actually a quite a nice guy. I do admire the man,and I don't care who knows!

[BettrFastrStrongr]

Right. I got you. The whole world is wrong and only you are right.

 

As usual, instead of saying "oh, I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry about that." you do as so many here do, and double down on the arrogant posturing, because you cannot ever admit you might be wrong about anything.

 

You are the very thing you complain about me.

 

No, Jay, the whole world isn't wrong, and you are very presumptuous to imagine you speak for the whole world.

 

So here is the actual poop that you dropped in another thread:

 

"$900, $5000, $1,000,000, none of that matters. It's all built on a foundation of nothingness. The book isn't worth that kind of money, and the only reason it sells for that kind of money is because GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

 

And when the bottom falls out, then what?

 

If YOU bought it for $900 and sold it for $5,000, YAY! You won the lottery of comics! Congrats!

 

Now what about all the OTHER "$900 comics" that aren't worth $300 today?

 

Oh, right, we don't talk about those...."

 

 

Geeeez. Talk about "contempt".

 

Yes, that's right. Contempt for a market that is mired in madness, that thinks there's no end in sight, that everything will always go up up UP!!, and there has never been a crash.

 

Contempt, because such thinking destroys lives when the inevitable happens.

 

You still don't understand: it's not about SELLING...it's about BUYING.

 

And here you are now in this thread, the obvious glee practically dripping from your keyboard as you cross post (in other threads) about NM 1 and MGN 4, boasting about how many dozens of 9.8 copies you have

 

You got all of that from: "Same ol' madness. I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s that I could really use in slabs right about now."

 

Really....?

 

I mean, really??

 

Wow.

 

Yes, because saying "I've got probably 20 raw 9.8s" is boasting, right...?

 

that you are undoubtedly preparing to excrete onto the market to immediately capitalize on this "maybe movie announcement". Wouldn't this sort of conduct be far more potentially hazardous to the hobby than the half dozen sales or so of a rare variant?

 

Nope. Because you don't understand it doesn't make it so.

 

I will tell people...all day long...to not pay ridiculous sums of money for things just because everyone else is paying ridiculous sums of money for them.

 

I will not, however, say "...and therefore, I cannot sell this to you for the current market price, but must insist you pay a lower price, because: principle."

 

There is no inconsistency here, Jay. In fact...TELLING people that the item they are currently paying $50 for probably isn't worth $5 is far, far more than most would, and more than the buyer deserves.

 

If the buyer wants to spend that money, I'm not going to turn him away. If I can convince the buyer that it's not worth the money....AGAINST MY OWN INTERESTS....then I am doing a good thing. If they decide, of their own accord, that it IS...then that's THEIR decision.

 

That doesn't mean it's not still madness....but that's the way the market works, Jay.

 

I suppose you somehow think that box of NM 1 and MGN 4 you have will be "worth" whatever you think you can ultimately get for them.

 

Yup.

 

Because anything is only worth what someone will pay for it.

 

I don't begrudge you trying to make a buck, but blatant hypocrisy is just not cool.

 

True...so why do you engage in it? (See above.)

 

"GIMME GIMME GIMME" indeed.

 

-J.

 

That is correct. If the buyer says GIMME GIMME GIMME with FULL knowledge of what they are doing....I'm not going to turn them away.

 

That's how it works CORRECTLY, Jay.

I gotta say, this quoting function is cool.

[Vikingreed]

Hasn't MGN #4 commanded strong prices for years now?

I've always been on the look out for a 9.8, and the ones I find seem to always be over $400.00.

[Legion HQ]

Hasn't MGN #4 commanded strong prices for years now?

I've always been on the look out for a 9.8, and the ones I find seem to always be over $400.00.

 

Yep. I'd been on the look-out for several years myself, but didn't feel like spending that kind of money on it. Finally bit the bullet a few months ago. Luckily.

[Jaydogrules]

 

Right. I got you. The whole world is wrong and only you are right.

 

So here is the actual poop that you dropped in another thread:

 

"$900, $5000, $1,000,000, none of that matters. It's all built on a foundation of nothingness. The book isn't worth that kind of money, and the only reason it sells for that kind of money is because GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!

 

And when the bottom falls out, then what?

 

Jay, do you mind me asking how old you are?

 

I've watched three market bubbles inflate and pop up close in my lifetime. The 90s comic market, the dot com bubble, and the housing bubble. Those aren't the only bubbles that have occurred in that time, they are just the ones that I was paying close attention to. The whole world is actually totally wrong fairly frequently.

 

Do you really think these kind of prices are sustainable?

 

I try not to dispense personal information on the boards. I don't know about "comic prices" in general being sustainable. Some might be, some may not be. I think the newer/more common the comic, the more vulnerable it likely is. That's not what my gripe with RMA was about though.

 

What I do not believe is sustainable at all is this "day trader" mentality with comics and the way people rush to buy a book in a herd mentality based solely on alternative media speculation, and cause prices on books like NM 1 and MGN 4 to double, triple, etc overnight, based on nothing more than a rumour and a title. If there's a "crash" that's where it is going to be IMO and I would imagine that would be the last thing the dealers who post in this thread would be rooting for or even wanting to talk about. Doing so may very well create a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

-J.

[Jimmy Linguini]

Well said.

[Hamlet]

 

I try not to dispense personal information on the boards. I don't know about "comic prices" in general being sustainable. Some might be, some may not be. I think the newer/more common the comic, the more vulnerable it likely is. That's not what my gripe with RMA was about though.

 

What I do not believe is sustainable at all is this "day trader" mentality with comics and the way people rush to buy a book in a herd mentality based solely on alternative media speculation, and cause prices on books like NM 1 and MGN 4 to double, triple, etc overnight, based on nothing more than a rumour and a title. If there's a "crash" that's where it is going to be IMO and I would imagine that would be the last thing the dealers who post in this thread would be rooting for or even wanting to talk about. Doing so may very well create a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

-J.

 

I think long-term dealers are probably bringing it up because they don't want their customers to feel cheated by them when the music stops. Trust me, if a bubble is going to pop, nothing said on these boards is going to cause it or prevent it. Remember, the long-term dealers all went through the 90s madness, and had to deal with the aftermath. That kind of thing happening to your business probably gives them a strong desire to discourage bubbles.

 

 

[Lonzilla]

 

I try not to dispense personal information on the boards. I don't know about "comic prices" in general being sustainable. Some might be, some may not be. I think the newer/more common the comic, the more vulnerable it likely is. That's not what my gripe with RMA was about though.

 

What I do not believe is sustainable at all is this "day trader" mentality with comics and the way people rush to buy a book in a herd mentality based solely on alternative media speculation, and cause prices on books like NM 1 and MGN 4 to double, triple, etc overnight, based on nothing more than a rumour and a title. If there's a "crash" that's where it is going to be IMO and I would imagine that would be the last thing the dealers who post in this thread would be rooting for or even wanting to talk about. Doing so may very well create a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

-J.

 

I think long-term dealers are probably bringing it up because they don't want their customers to feel cheated by them when the music stops. Trust me, if a bubble is going to pop, nothing said on these boards is going to cause it or prevent it. Remember, the long-term dealers all went through the 90s madness, and had to deal with the aftermath. That kind of thing happening to your business probably gives them a strong desire to discourage bubbles.

 

Don't stop the music! GIMME GIMME GIMME!

[Chip Cataldo]

Picked up 10 copies of NM #1 for $7 yesterday at a local con along with the GN 1st print for $5.

[Doktor]

If anyone wants to hook a brother up with one of the MGN 4s for relatively cheap for a guy that never realized it was the 1st appearance when finishing his New Mutants collection a few years ago.... I'd be mighty obliged. I doubt it's gonna happen, but hey... can't hurt to ask. Totally missed that one until this madness started & realized "oh , now I'm not getting it".

[Broke as a Joke]

MGN 4 literally doubled in price overnight on graded copies once the movie news hit. Finding a 9.8 for less than $700 is going to be a tough task now.

 

LCS are all probably wiped out but I would try to find some raw copies in the wild.

[yoddler]

MGN 4 literally doubled in price overnight on graded copies once the movie news hit. Finding a 9.8 for less than $700 is going to be a tough task now.

 

LCS are all probably wiped out but I would try to find some raw copies in the wild.

 

A 9.8 Canadian sold on the bay for $750. A true first print would sell for higher... I could see it reaching $1000 before all is said and done!

 

Looks like raw is the best chance to find a high grade in the wild.

[Jaydogrules]

MGN 4 literally doubled in price overnight on graded copies once the movie news hit. Finding a 9.8 for less than $700 is going to be a tough task now.

 

LCS are all probably wiped out but I would try to find some raw copies in the wild.

 

"GIMME GIMME GIMME".

 

Is this what RMA meant ? If so, then we probably deserve a crash. Anyone who suddenly wants this book simply because the concept of a potential movie was announced and pays "$700+" will probably lose money, as hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of copies are now being boxed and readied for CGC as I type this. Although I do still find RMA's comments hypocritical, considering he will be an active particpant in the "madness". I don't think anybody who pays $700 for this book would ever (or have any right) to go back to the dealer who sold them the book six months later and blame them for their nonsensical impulse buy. And I don't think that is anything RMA (or any other dealer) worries about. It really is a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" on both sides then, isn't it RMA.

 

By the way, the books to own are (still) X-men 1, Hulk 181, NM 87 and 98.

 

Those no-name D-lister mutants in MGN 4 will not be what carry any movie (assuming the movie even happens). The general public has gone to see every x-men movie thus far essentially for wolverine. The comic fan boys want to see Deadpool and Cable now. The real X-men would undoubtedly appear in any "New Mutants" movie as well.

 

And Oops, what if the potential title literally means what it says and FOX actually creates "new mutants" that never appeared in any comic. Quite the possibility, since, lets face it, the "new mutants" that appeared in the comics really are quite lame.

 

-J.

[jaeldubyoo]

And here I was expecting someone in here to take exception with the "common, mass produced, copper age schlock" part.

 

-J.

 

I was actually just about to comment on that! I love that graphic novel and those early New Mutants issues. Solidified my love for comics as a kid of the 80s. So I take exception to it being referred to as "schlock".

 

Next up....POWER PACK!

 

Seems like that book would be a natural for Disney. I think it would make a great kids movie.

[yoddler]

MGN 4 literally doubled in price overnight on graded copies once the movie news hit. Finding a 9.8 for less than $700 is going to be a tough task now.

 

LCS are all probably wiped out but I would try to find some raw copies in the wild.

 

"GIMME GIMME GIMME".

 

Is this what RMA meant ? If so, then we probably deserve a crash. Anyone who suddenly wants this book simply because the concept of a potential movie was announced and pays "$700+" will probably lose money, as hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of copies are now being boxed and readied for CGC as I type this. Although I do still find RMA's comments hypocritical, considering he will be an active particpant in the "madness". I don't think anybody who pays $700 for this book would ever (or have any right) to go back to the dealer who sold them the book six months later and blame them for their nonsensical impulse buy. And I don't think that is anything RMA (or any other dealer) worries about. It really is a "GIMME GIMME GIMME" on both sides then, isn't it RMA.

 

By the way, the books to own are (still) X-men 1, Hulk 181, NM 87 and 98.

 

Those no-name D-lister mutants in MGN 4 will not be what carry any movie (assuming the movie even happens). The general public has gone to see every x-men movie thus far essentially for wolverine. The comic fan boys want to see Deadpool and Cable now. The real X-men would undoubtedly appear in any "New Mutants" movie as well.

 

And Oops, what if the potential title literally means what it says and FOX actually creates "new mutants" that never appeared in any comic. Quite the possibility, since, let's face it, the "new mutants" that appeared in the comics really are quite lame.

 

-J.

 

I don't want to step into the whole conversation you guys have going about the market, but I loved New Mutants when it came out. I think a movie with cannonball, warlock and magik would be freaking awesome. And I really hope it happens!

[CheeseFrog]

Was lucky enough to find a first print MGN4 at one of my LCS's yesterday... $10 for a VF. Guess I beat all of the other nerds to it.