Suicide Squad movie coming 2 2

[Jonesin4Comics]

Oh no....

No no no no no.

 

Barf.

 

And yes, I will give it a chance. But those tats? And the teeth?

It's like he's trying real hard to look "crazy".

 

At first I didn't like it but Leto is solid and should do it justice. The real issue I have is the "damaged" tattoo since it looks like something Miley Cyrus would get

 

The character design has nothing to do with the actor's ability to portray the character.

 

That's not necessarily true. I recall the outrage of Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker. His performance clearly transcended the doubts. I'm not saying this is exactly the same but we can draw a comparison. Point is, if someone is an excellent actor I reserve judgement until I see it in action. But that still doesn't mean I like all of the elements of the design either.

 

People were upset about Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker because they were either unfamiliar with his acting ability, outright believed he didn't possess said acting ability, or thought that he didn't look the part. None of that had anything to do with the character design, or the costume/makeup. It had to do with Ledger the person.

 

"Outrage" over the depiction of the Joker character shown above for the Suicide Squad movie has nothing to do with Leto being the actor. The people defending the character design keep bringing up Leto for some reason, but that has nothing to do with the discussion. The masses are upset with the design of the Joker - the costume, the makeup - not the actor playing him.

 

You can't draw a comparison. The situations are completely reversed.

 

This is something the studios still don't understand. Comic book characters become well known and iconic not just because of what they do in the comics, but how they appear. If you don't have a successful character design, you don't have a character. Take too many liberties with that design, whether its a costume change or a change in the race/sex of a character and you risk losing something in that translation. There is a difference between having a different take on a character and bastardizing the character to the point it no longer aligns with the source material.

 

Those in charge of coming up with the Joker for the movie had 75 years of source material from which to work. The mixed reactions on the internet are a good indication that they didn't succeed. This is one of those instances where they didn't need to blow people away, they just needed to not screw it up. And it would appear that they have failed.

 

Those tattoos are distracting and they don't fit with the character. Tattoos aren't a defining characteristic of the Joker to begin with, so you don't need them. If you want them for whatever reason, okay, but you are going to make every single one of them follow the joker/jester/playing card theme? Really?

 

Like I said, this is not the same situation, but they're not reversed either. I completely get what you're say though and I agree that this isn't the look I would prefer for the Joker. The comparison is that people aren't happy about this depiction just like they weren't happy about Ledger. The sell was in his performance and that could (or could not) be the case with Leto.

 

See the recent Fantastic 4 design/casting backlash. Now that the trailer is out, a lot of folks have changed their tune. So again, I'll wait until I see his performance to decide whether or not I completely hate it

Edited April 25, 2015 by Jonesin4Comics

[kagenish]

the way i see it is if they are able to cature the essence of the joker with the acting and writing then thats what should matter to us has comic book fans. how many diffierent joker have we seen in live action 4 and each is different from each other with small characteristic pieces of the joker.

[kdoginohio]

the way i see it is if they are able to cature the essence of the joker with the acting and writing then thats what should matter to us has comic book fans. how many diffierent joker have we seen in live action 4 and each is different from each other with small characteristic pieces of the joker.

Well, I hope they get it right before I die!

[Bosco685]

[Bosco685]

Analysing THE JOKER's New Look; Has SUICIDE SQUAD Got It Right?

 

"Damaged" - There have been a lot of complaints from fans about this tattoo on The Joker's forhead, but it's no doubt an ironic statement being made by the villain. There are other markings on his face too, though all but the one on his cheek look more like scars than tattoos. They're probably fractures and lacerations from his fights with Batman. Remember, rumour has it that he's one of the few people in the DC Cinematic Universe to have ever met the Gotham City superhero.

 

"The Robin" - That looks an awful lot like a robin on The Joker's right bicep and could be a trophy of sorts after he murdered Batman's sidekick years before. We've heard from a number of sources that Robin's costume will be on display in the Batcave, so who else but the Clown Prince of Crime could be responsible for killing the youngster? Don't forget that it's also been rumoured that The Joker killed Commissioner Gordon so maybe he gets a mention too.

[AmazingComics413]

 

Gave me a good chuckle

[Dmac538]

After seeing Jared all tatted up and looking all ravey I realized who he looks exactly like

 

Keith would make a great Joker, did you see the Breathe video?

[fastballspecial]

I remember how hated Heath Ledger's first pictures were received.

 

This will be the same way.

 

 

[NewEnglandGothic]

Nope it's different. The producers have went too far this time.

 

...and in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand, Jared Leto.

 

Now, the producers have changed things, forever. You see to them, the Jared Leto is just a freak, like a bat-nippled George Clooney. But now, there's no going back. And as soon as the mainstream audience doesn't need his Joker anymore, they'll cast him aside, like Halle Berry's Catwoman.

 

[Bosco685]

Nope it's different. The producers have went too far this time.

 

...and in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn't fully understand, Jared Leto.

 

Now, the producers have changed things, forever. You see to them, the Jared Leto is just a freak, like a bat-nippled George Clooney. But now, there's no going back. And as soon as the mainstream audience doesn't need his Joker anymore, they'll cast him aside, like Halle Berry's Catwoman.

 

[ComicConnoisseur]

I remember how hated Heath Ledger's first pictures were received.

 

This will be the same way.

 

Not me. I remember being so impressed with those first Heath Ledger Joker trailers that I started showing other people them. A good buzz was created.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2015 by ComicConnoisseur

[Aweandlorder]

After seeing Jared all tatted up and looking all ravey I realized who he looks exactly like

 

Keith would make a great Joker, did you see the Breathe video?

 

I played with them in St Louis in 97, keith was always a mental case, even more so behind stage.

Liam is a musical genuis

[Comicopolis]

wtf is this poop?

 

 

[Chris_Skeleton]

Is the Insane Clown Posse going to be in his gang?

[Vexsus]

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/04/26/calm-down-the-joker-will-not-have-tattoos-in-suicide-squad-2887773?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual,manual,manual,manual

 

Looks like there might be a shred of hope yet...

[Bosco685]

I wouldn't give up too quickly on this version of the Joker just yet.

 

 

He plays this right (and gets that 'DAMAGED' tattoo off his forehead), this could go great.

 

[Jaydogrules]

I wouldn't give up too quickly on this version of the Joker just yet.

 

 

He plays this right (and gets that 'DAMAGED' tattoo off his forehead), this could go great.

 

 

Still looks like some kind of Marilyn Manson thing going on.

Like someone stated earlier, the Joker is the "CLOWN Prince of Crime", not some methed up looking EMO/Goth weirdo.

 

-J.

[fantastic_four]

It's fun watching everyone try to define what a twisted deranged psychopath should be like.

 

I rather like the new look. We'll see how he acts it, and that's the most important part. Nobody knew how cool Ledger would be until we actually saw him do it.

[kdoginohio]

It's fun watching everyone try to define what a twisted deranged psychopath should be like.

 

I rather like the new look. We'll see how he acts it, and that's the most important part. Nobody knew how cool Ledger would be until we actually saw him do it.

Yes, Ledger's Joker was good, but he still missed by a mile. Then again, that's just my opinion.

[NewEnglandGothic]

I'm wondering if there were focus groups of non-Hollywood people who were shown this look first to judge their reactions.