Robot Man Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 1:28 PM, tth2 said: I had a soldier from Texas whose kids came to the barracks and I was shocked because they were in high school and he didn't seem that old at all. I found out that he got his girlfriend pregnant when he was 12 and she was 13, and they got married shortly thereafter. He had game. At 12 I was reading comics, building Rat Fink models, riding my Sting Ray and listening to The Rolling Stones… ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Yikes. The Promise copy of Tec 140 Riddler 9.6 dropped from $456k to $360k. Haircut time Eerie 1 first horror jumped from $90k to $108k Edited March 30, 2023 by GreatCaesarsGhost goldust40 and adamstrange 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 12:28 PM, szav said: The Tec 114 suffered the biggest percentage drop going from 156k down to 84k… that’s more of a disembowelment than a haircut. How did the Wonder Woman do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 6:19 PM, batman_fan said: On 3/30/2023 at 11:28 AM, szav said: The Tec 114 suffered the biggest percentage drop going from 156k down to 84k… that’s more of a disembowelment than a haircut. How did the Wonder Woman do? Well, from a Promise Collection POV relative to so many of the other Promise retreads, actually not too bad at all: Sensation #31 sold for $8,400 as compared to $9K back in November of 2021; Sensation #32 sold for $4,800 as compared to $6,600 back in November of 2021; Sensation 36 sold for $5,760 as compared to $6,600 back in November of 2021; and Sensation 38 sold for $8,400 as compared to $10,200 back in November of 2021. So, not too bad at all at a loss of $5,040 or only 15.55% excluding auction fees plus any other additional ancillary costs. Needless to say, another case where the consignor dare not even make an attempt for an upgrade or the CPR treatment which is so common in today's marketplace except when it comes to these Promise Collection books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 Update! Current Promise Collection ROI snapshot. Chart includes 39 auctions closed in March. Data sorted oldest to newest Sale Date. Note: Currently tracking 19 Heritage lots that will close April 1 – 6. Those sales with be reported with April's update. (Source: Heritage Auctions (HA), Comic Connect (CC), ComicLink (CL), eBay) Dark Knight, adamstrange, Randall Dowling and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 1:06 AM, MasterChief said: Update! Current Promise Collection ROI snapshot. Chart includes 39 auctions closed in March. Data sorted oldest to newest Sale Date. Note: Currently tracking 19 Heritage lots that will close April 1 – 6. Those sales with be reported with April's update. (Source: Heritage Auctions (HA), Comic Connect (CC), ComicLink (CL), eBay) I'm not seeing this one on your spreadsheet. It dropped from $2,340 to $1,431 (which was still too much considering that it has the worst cut of any copy of that issue that I've ever seen). Edited March 31, 2023 by jimbo_7071 MasterChief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The Planet 64 went up. It seems like the low-grade and mid-grade copies might be doing better overall. MasterChief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbanner Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 1:06 AM, MasterChief said: Update! Current Promise Collection ROI snapshot. Chart includes 39 auctions closed in March. Data sorted oldest to newest Sale Date. Note: Currently tracking 19 Heritage lots that will close April 1 – 6. Those sales with be reported with April's update. (Source: Heritage Auctions (HA), Comic Connect (CC), ComicLink (CL), eBay) Thanks for keeping track of all these. Rough going for the 2nd greatest comic book collection ever brought to market as far as an investment, especially after tacking on another 10% loss in terms of what the $ is worth today compared to the Fall of '21. Hopefully the consignors were able to negotiate their consignment fees, otherwise you can add another 10-15% to the loss. Edited March 31, 2023 by drbanner Larryw7 and MasterChief 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 12:06 AM, MasterChief said: Update! Current Promise Collection ROI snapshot. Chart includes 39 auctions closed in March. Data sorted oldest to newest Sale Date. Note: Currently tracking 19 Heritage lots that will close April 1 – 6. Those sales with be reported with April's update. (Source: Heritage Auctions (HA), Comic Connect (CC), ComicLink (CL), eBay) Well done, Masterchief. Some of those price drop-offs are stunning MasterChief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) It's tough for everyone who owned Promise Collection books that previously were sold for less. 2021 was a great year for the sellers before other inflation surge began in August 2022. It's a buyers market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021–2023_inflation_surge#:~:text=A worldwide increase in inflation began in mid-2021%2C,countries seeing their highest inflation rates in decades. Edited March 31, 2023 by JollyComics drbanner and GreatCaesarsGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomerjay Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 3:52 AM, jimbo_7071 said: The Planet 64 went up. It seems like the low-grade and mid-grade copies might be doing better overall. Both prices are at least double of what a non-Promise copy would get; someone wanted a Promise book. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post october Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 As poorly as some of these Promise issues have fared, an average 20% loss is still miles better than the performance of the Marvel movie hype spec books. Many, many of those are down 50%-75% or more from their highs. It's a bloodbath, even on some of the established high end keys. It's a testament to the enduring appeal of Gold that the most hyped collection in a generation, sold at the top of the market cycle, is still holding value fairly well. buttock, szucchini, comicjack and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 6:40 PM, drbanner said: Hopefully the consignors were able to negotiate their consignment fees, otherwise you can add another 10-15% to the loss. I think the Promise winners received certificates from Heritage promising them (no pun intended) a 10% net fee if they resold on Heritage. drbanner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 7:20 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Well done, Masterchief. Some of those price drop-offs are stunning That is some seriously horrific reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 8:18 PM, october said: As poorly as some of these Promise issues have fared, an average 20% loss is still miles better than the performance of the Marvel movie hype spec books. Many, many of those are down 50%-75% or more from their highs. It's a bloodbath, even on some of the established high end keys. It's a testament to the enduring appeal of Gold that the most hyped collection in a generation, sold at the top of the market cycle, is still holding value fairly well. Andy, that's a VERY glass half full view. My perspective is that the Promise books and Marvel SA/BA books are simply a case of Edited March 31, 2023 by tth2 goldust40 and batman_fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I can understand the 20 or 30% drops as the initial interest wanes and given the macroeconomy. The Terry Toons 38 drop is brutal. At the reduced price though, dang, I almost wish I'd bought it. Great book for only 16k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ryan. Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 8:18 AM, october said: As poorly as some of these Promise issues have fared, an average 20% loss is still miles better than the performance of the Marvel movie hype spec books. Many, many of those are down 50%-75% or more from their highs. It's a bloodbath, even on some of the established high end keys. It's a testament to the enduring appeal of Gold that the most hyped collection in a generation, sold at the top of the market cycle, is still holding value fairly well. Woah, hold your horses. Don't you know we here on the boards are market crash enthusiasts and don't take kindly to such optimistic jive talk? batman_fan, october, tth2 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 10:52 AM, Bronty said: I can understand the 20 or 30% drops as the initial interest wanes and given the macroeconomy. The Terry Toons 38 drop is brutal. At the reduced price though, dang, I almost wish I'd bought it. Great book for only 16k. I'd still call it high. Talk to some teenagers and ask them if they are familiar with Mighty Mouse. I grew up with Mighty Mouse—I had a "Mighty Mouse saves Dinky Duck" record that I used to listen to—but that character is no longer important. Pop-culture status is inexorably ephemeral. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 8:02 AM, whomerjay said: Both prices are at least double of what a non-Promise copy would get; someone wanted a Promise book. Planet Comics in general have been high lately—too high considering how common most of the issues are—so $1,400 wouldn't look too high for that #63 if it weren't for the horrible mis-cut. That's a copy I would have passed on at any price. With GA books it's tough to get too picky about finding a perfect wrap and cut, but I don't know how a cut that bad managed to avoid a green label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomerjay Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 11:30 AM, jimbo_7071 said: I'd still call it high. Talk to some teenagers and ask them if they are familiar with Mighty Mouse. I grew up with Mighty Mouse—I had a "Mighty Mouse saves Dinky Duck" record that I used to listen to—but that character is no longer important. Pop-culture status is inexorably ephemeral. Edited March 31, 2023 by whomerjay jimbo_7071, Larryw7 and buttock 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...