blazingbob Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 12:53 PM, ThatNerdyCanuck said: Dealers are just going to pass the $200 costs down to its customers anyway, so I don't know what they're complaining about I don't submit any books for my customers so who am I passing the cost down to? Comes out of my pocket. Larryw7, Tony S, jsilverjanet and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNerdyCanuck Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 10:00 AM, blazingbob said: I don't submit any books for my customers so who am I passing the cost down to? Comes out of my pocket. Doesn't that just make you a regular customer/dude then and not a dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 10:04 AM, ThatNerdyCanuck said: Doesn't that just make you a regular customer/dude then and not a dealer? That makes zero sense. Larryw7 and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Sounds like it might be based on volume, although I'm pretty sure Mr. Storms was there at the beginning so perhaps the original dealers might have some privileges people who signed up later don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:07 AM, NewWorldOrder said: That makes zero sense. Perhaps he is auditioning for a job with the company. He fits in well. Buzzetta, NewWorldOrder and theCapraAegagrus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony S Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 7:52 PM, Red84 said: It is an incredibly short sighted and stupid decision. There are less than 200 CGC authorized dealers. How many submissions, customers, and future customers do dealers bring in through their submissions, customers' submissions, and free advertising of CGC's services to their customers. Is $200 per dealer worth losing that goodwill? Clearly not. Pretty hilariously bad decision making. I do not know how many ACTIVE, routinely submitting dealer accounts there are, but there are far, FAR more than 200 authorized dealers. I have several dealers as clients - they submit using their own account - and the highest dealer number is near 2000. And this is not a "new" dealer. Owns several stores and has for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 1:09 PM, Tony S said: I do not know how many ACTIVE, routinely submitting dealer accounts there are, but there are far, FAR more than 200 authorized dealers. I have several dealers as clients - they submit using their own account - and the highest dealer number is near 2000. And this is not a "new" dealer. Owns several stores and has for years. This fee goes across all the grading companies, card, coin, comics. So yes 200 is a very low number. Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:09 AM, Tony S said: I do not know how many ACTIVE, routinely submitting dealer accounts there are, but there are far, FAR more than 200 authorized dealers. I have several dealers as clients - they submit using their own account - and the highest dealer number is near 2000. And this is not a "new" dealer. Owns several stores and has for years. I bet this trims that number quite a bit. I wonder how many collectors managed to open up dealer accounts. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GACollectibles Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 12:56 PM, NewWorldOrder said: I might start going to 200 per month instead of 100. That'll be a lot of 6.0 moderns hitting the market! Tony S, Mystafo, kimik and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewWorldOrder Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) BlackStone should implement a CGC Boardie fee for posting non-sensical posts. If they charged .99c each post they would generate more income than all the 2022 modern CGC submissions combined. Heck just from my drunk posts they would get me for a couple hundred bucks per year. Edited January 11, 2022 by NewWorldOrder silverseeker, namisgr, Tony S and 5 others 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 10:13 AM, GACollectibles said: That'll be a lot of 6.0 moderns hitting the market! You wish I failed like that. Tony S, Point Five and silverseeker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony S Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 4:30 AM, oalg2 said: In reference to 'rivals' grading - The amount of 9.9's getting put out there on a regular basis are ridiculous! Lets not take this thread away from the point though... Are dealers just going to take this c**p or..? Back when Matt Nelson ran his own pressing/restoration business and wasn't President of CGC, he had a detailed article on his website showing that there ought to be far more 9.9's and 10's coming out of CGC. It was a thing of beauty complete with graph charts and mathematical modeling. I wish I had printed it out. It went the way of the Dodo bird when CCG bought his business, moved him to Sarasota and started their own in house pressing/restoration service. So IDK if the number of 9.9's coming out of the outfit in Texas is "ridiculous" because I have no idea how many that actually is. But there was a time when the now President of CGC believed CGC should have been grading far more 9.9's and 10's. One those truths some people might want to forget.... Larryw7, RockMyAmadeus, KCOComics and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 It's 5 degrees here and the UPS guy that just dropped off my latest CGC package was wearing shorts. CGC should strongly reconsider dropping UPS. workingdog, awakeintheashes and Point Five 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewWorldOrder Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 10:19 AM, Tony S said: Back when Matt Nelson ran his own pressing/restoration business and wasn't President of CGC, he had a detailed article on his website showing that there ought to be far more 9.9's and 10's coming out of CGC. It was a thing of beauty complete with graph charts and mathematical modeling. I wish I had printed it out. It went the way of the Dodo bird when CCG bought his business, moved him to Sarasota and started their own in house pressing/restoration service. So IDK if the number of 9.9's coming out of the outfit in Texas is "ridiculous" because I have no idea how many that actually is. But there was a time when the now President of CGC believed CGC should have been grading far more 9.9's and 10's. One those truths some people might want to forget.... Finally....... IMO this is by far the biggest problem CGC has right now. The lack of CGC 9.9's and 10.0's of pre-2000 books especially. Loosen up and lets juice some books into the market place. There are for sure many strong 9.8's that can be put into 9.9's holders. Its good for the hobby to see more 9.9's and 10.0's. theCapraAegagrus, RockMyAmadeus, Tony S and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I think you guys are responding to Stu...who for some odd reason is moving into "rabble rousing mode" ... instead of his usual... Slot13 and s-dali 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride the Tiger Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Disco Stu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 1:26 PM, skypinkblu said: I think you guys are responding to Stu... I don't think so. I can smell Stu from a mile away. Wherever you are, buddy: Beige 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighRadArt Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Is the $200 dealer price on top of having a paid membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 10:14 AM, NewWorldOrder said: BlackStone should implement a CGC Boardie fee for posting non-sensical posts. If they charged .99c each post they would generate more income than all the 2022 modern CGC submissions combined. Heck just from my drunk posts they would get me for a couple hundred bucks per year. onlyweaknesskryptonite, Buzzetta, NewWorldOrder and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony S Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 10:14 PM, Lord Gemini said: Yes and yes. I see the transactions on eBay, but believe what you like. eBay is another relationship that has gotten worse over time and needs reevaluation by many. People stay in relationships that have soured because they are afraid of change. Lazyboy, october, buttock and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
