thehumantorch Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:42 AM, Ryan. said: The FedEx guy took special care to place the box in the exact position in my garage where my car's tire would drive right over it if I didn't see it beforehand. He must be tired of delivering chocolates joeypost and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 12:53 PM, ThatNerdyCanuck said: Dealers are just going to pass the $200 costs down to its customers anyway, so I don't know what they're complaining about How would we do that? Charge an extra $0.03 per book submitted under our account? KCOComics, buttock and Tony S 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blazingbob Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/11/2022 at 4:22 PM, joeypost said: How would we do that? Charge an extra $0.03 per book submitted under our account? Invoice handling fee Or you can use the following code Invoice creation cost - $.25 Invoice email costs - $.25 Invoice payment processing cost $.25 Paper invoice cost $.25 Packing material cost $.25 Tape material cost to seal the box $.25 Website cost recovery fee $1.50 Support the local economy fee $1 Cost of alcohol recovery fee so that we can deal with customers $5 Edited January 11, 2022 by blazingbob sckao, silverseeker, theCapraAegagrus and 15 others 5 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sckao Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/11/2022 at 1:22 PM, joeypost said: How would we do that? Charge an extra $0.03 per book submitted under our account? It's called a handling/processing fee CGC already charges this. Edited January 11, 2022 by sckao Bob's faster on the trigger... skypinkblu and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arexcrooke Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:37 PM, joeypost said: You sell comics for a living. Slabs bring a premium. Where are the dealers going to go? Voldemort? Don’t think so. Exactly. As long as CGC brings me more for my books then there isnt anywhere else to go. I like pie and Lord Gemini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arexcrooke Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 9:38 PM, Beige said: Steve Borock must be grinning from ear to ear. CBCS will be market leader in 18 months. What incentive is there to stay with CGC - quality control, 12 month waits, endless 'special sig signings' that very few people care about jumping the queue - and stupid stunts with empty cases. How to lose customers and trash your business 101 I very seriously doubt they are going to be the industry leaders. They, too, have their own problems. The first and foremost is that their slabs either dont bring the same rate of return as a CGC book or they take much longer to turn over. Either way costs me money. Hence why I do not submit with them and why I do not like to take their books in on trade. When I do I do not pay as strongly for them. So if I am that way, other dealers are that way, and obviously customers are that way...then how will CBCS become the industry leader? You may be right and that might happen. I am just skeptical with market forces the way they currently are. musicmeta, alexgross.com, I like pie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 8:29 AM, Artboy99 said: I agree with this, but I can also say CGC is doing the same. Books they would have graded as 4.5 several years ago are now "suddenly" 5.5's. They changed how they grade books and it is obvious to me. It's tough to keep the same standards when so many other things have changed... F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joeypost Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 4:28 PM, blazingbob said: Invoice handling fee Or you can use the following code Invoice creation cost - $.25 Invoice email costs - $.25 Invoice payment processing cost $.25 Paper invoice cost $.25 Packing material cost $.25 Tape material cost to seal the box $.25 Website cost recovery fee $1.50 Support the local economy fee $1 Cost of alcohol recovery fee so that we can deal with customers $5 Thanks Bob, I will be instituting this on January 18, 2022. Randall Dowling, Tony S, awakeintheashes and 7 others 3 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 4:29 PM, sckao said: It's called a handling/processing fee CGC already charges this. I was being tongue in cheek...but what Bob said sounds good. Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GACollectibles Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 4:41 PM, joeypost said: I was being tongue in cheek...but what Bob said sounds good. I'd get that last $5 line item fee up front, just saying. joeypost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 3:44 PM, GACollectibles said: I'd get that last $5 line item fee up front, just saying. The CGC Idea Committee thanks you.... Oh. Wait. GACollectibles and Timmay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sckao Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) On 1/11/2022 at 1:34 PM, arexcrooke said: I very seriously doubt they are going to be the industry leaders. They, too, have their own problems. The first and foremost is that their slabs either dont bring the same rate of return as a CGC book or they take much longer to turn over. Either way costs me money. Hence why I do not submit with them and why I do not like to take their books in on trade. When I do I do not pay as strongly for them. So if I am that way, other dealers are that way, and obviously customers are that way...then how will CBCS become the industry leader? You may be right and that might happen. I am just skeptical with market forces the way they currently are. Until GPA starts including NON-CGC sales for its data or one of its competitors supplants it as the premiere source for pricing slabs, valuation will continue to be an issue. Edited January 11, 2022 by sckao arexcrooke, Beige and silverseeker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buzzetta Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 No company is too big to fail. CGC is not even what I would consider a big company. Beige, Randall Dowling, F For Fake and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arexcrooke Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 4:56 PM, Buzzetta said: No company is too big to fail. CGC is not even what I would consider a big company. True, but in this market it is the biggest company with all of the positives and negatives that are associated with being "The Industry Leader" So unless something happens that corrects the current market CGC will continue to be "The Industry Leader" musicmeta and Buzzetta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arexcrooke Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 So for the people who are Member-Dealers are there any benefits accorded to us that are not accorded to the non-member dealers? I thought about using the phrasing "commoners" but felt that sounded too snarky and condescending Buzzetta, silverseeker and Beige 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bookery Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 3:28 PM, NewWorldOrder said: Why would anyone buy a raw book and take the risk of you not grading the book correctly just to save on CGC grading costs? I like the way you assume that it's my book that might not be graded correctly vs. CGC! I am far more consistent than CGC can ever be... no brag or a slam against CGC... but they've probably had 100 different graders over the years, and with me it's just me. Plus, customers believe my grades are equal to or more conservative than CGC (which has proven true over the years when they send them in, so it's not an idle assumption). I don't grade any raw book higher than 9.4, so with many moderns you get from me you are likely getting a 9.6 or 9.8, which is fine with me. Also, I've been doing this about twice as long as CGC. Most customers STILL prefer raw books (again, aside from the 9.8 chasers), and buying from me they have the option to keep it as is or send it off at some point down the road. On 1/11/2022 at 3:28 PM, NewWorldOrder said: I understand people dont always buy raw books to get CGC graded, but there usually needs to be an incentive for a buyer to buy the book raw versus an already graded CGC copy. Mentioned the incentives above. I sell plenty of CGC books too, though usually I buy them already graded. CGC's a perfectly fine company. But let's face it... they are "experts" because they say they are experts. I'm also an expert. Have been one for 40 years (okay... let's say 30... I figure it takes about 10 years to become a truly "expert" grader, covering all the possible ramifications with golden-age to modern, restoration issues, etc.). I'm guessing the majority of CGC graders don't have that 10 years experience yet. If I suddenly patented and began slabbing and grading vintage paperbacks, would I now be more of an expert than I was the day before I slabbed them in plastic? Obvious answer. october, buttock, lou_fine and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexgross.com Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 1:22 PM, joeypost said: How would we do that? Charge an extra $0.03 per book submitted under our account? if you've ever bought tickets online to anything, a concert, a comic con, a comedy show, you may recall that at the verrrry end of the checkout process, right after you enter your payment info, is the little line item before the total called SERVICE FEE. zosocane and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 5:17 PM, alexgross.com said: if you've ever bought tickets online to anything, a concert, a comic con, a comedy show, you may recall that at the verrrry end of the checkout process, right after you enter your payment info, is the little line item before the total called SERVICE FEE. Oh, you mean the BIC. We all love acronyms. Here is the new one Because I Can fee alexgross.com and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
