Heritage September 2022 comic and art auction 3 3

[tth2]

On 9/12/2022 at 4:53 AM, jjonahjameson11 said:

I was the immediate underbidder on 8 lots

You are a consignor's best friend!

[tth2]

On 9/12/2022 at 8:07 AM, Bill C said:

On 9/12/2022 at 7:44 AM, comix4fun said:

Can we count each Garfield lot moved as an individual miracle to speed the application along? 

I'd say so! The Garfields were really starting to wear me down

I imagine Bronty was hoovering them up.  I think he said in another thread that he wanted 400 of them.

[comix4fun]

On 9/11/2022 at 10:42 PM, tth2 said:

I imagine Bronty was hoovering them up.  I think he said in another thread that he wanted 400 of them.

The only reason to have that many is to paper the walls of your home with them , like the priests in those demonic possession flicks do with Bible pages, in a vain attempt to fend off sarcastic cats. 

[adamstrange]

On 9/11/2022 at 9:55 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

Such strange bedfellows. 

Hearst was a pioneer in the use of comics to sell newspapers.  His duel with Pulitzer is legendary, historically important for both newspapers and the development of comic art.  He sought the best artists and paid top dollar for their services.  In the case of McKay, it was "Little Nemo in Slumberland" that brought him to Hearst's attention.

King Features Syndicate was created to consolidate all of Hearst's strip artists and their syndication.  To learn about Hearst and comics, I highly recommend this book:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1684053390/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The definitive biography of McKay is:

https://www.amazon.com/Winsor-McCay-His-Life-Art-ebook/dp/B07DF6F5ZP/ref=sr_1_8?crid=G9QQRFAJ1X9O&keywords=john+canemaker&qid=1662958028&s=books&sprefix=john+cane%2Cstripbooks%2C93&sr=1-8

[Michael Browning]

Can anyone tell me why this Joe Staton page sold so high?

 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Michael Browning

[Michael Browning]

I could understand why this Frazetta piece sold so high if it was of a moose and squirrel 😉, but a moose and rabbit?

 

[drdonaldblake1]

On 9/10/2022 at 10:10 PM, Michael Browning said:

$13,000 on the Avengers Spotlight cover.

 

Thank you sir! 

A solid price for which the consignor I'm sure would be pleased

[Carl Elvis]

These Kirby pages went for more than double that I expected;

[KirbyCollector]

On 9/11/2022 at 11:19 PM, AlexG_art said:

 

 

I'll put it this. While the piece in question has original pencils. The inks were added postproduction. 

The way I took it is the owner of the piece decided to take the original art. And have it commissioned by a famous inker. Now had they said that in the description. I would've probably passed. 

It's a great piece but not sure I can get passed the fact the commission inks were done over an original. 

     

Contact Nadia or Joe directly. Calling Heritage to try and back out of a winning auction with their standard customer service may not go well, as they might struggle to understand the issue.

Edited September 12, 2022 by KirbyCollector

[Bronty]

On 9/11/2022 at 11:42 PM, tth2 said:

I imagine Bronty was hoovering them up.  I think he said in another thread that he wanted 400 of them.

I wish!   Unfortunately I have too many other buys lined up so I haven't won one in a while.

[Twanj]

 

These 5 very light pencils only Wolverine Origin covers by Quesada did well, I thought.

 

Anything about this that I'm missing?

"Commission Information for Jim Lee
Blank cover comic, only bust shot with no background $8,000. And 12k if it a wraparound.  Jim Lee will supply the blank cover comic but you can supply at the show if you like."

[Bronty]

I thought these two make-an-offers made for an interesting contrast.

One issue too late.. wolverine... $3500

One issue too late.. moon knight... $25,000

On what planet, scarcity issues notwithstanding, does that make sense?     I know both of the offers were rejected but the original auctions on both showed the same disparity and weren't that long ago.

 

The Incredible Hulk #182 (Marvel, 1974) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages....	$1,440.00	Jun 17 2018	$3,570	Rejected	Aug 31 2022	Make Offer to Owner
	Werewolf by Night #33 (Marvel, 1975) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages....	$13,200.00	Sep 12 2021	$25,500	Rejected	Aug 31 2022

Edited September 12, 2022 by Bronty

[zhamlau]

On 9/12/2022 at 9:50 AM, Twanj said:

 

These 5 very light pencils only Wolverine Origin covers by Quesada did well, I thought.

Quesada did extremely well overall. That Ninjak cover was shocking. I had a fantasy notion of taking a stab at it but man that price point is well beyond what I feel comfortable paying. 
 

I was interested also in the Azrael pages, figured they would be like 1000 a page considering it was a lot and they had really  content. But with tax and shipping they ended up being like 2500 a page. This appears to be another clue that I’m likely never gonna land any more art from this book :/ 

[jjonahjameson11]

On 9/11/2022 at 11:39 PM, tth2 said:

You are a consignor's best friend!

tell me about it! 

[Hawkgirl]

I’m new to OA collecting. I made an account on Heritage but have mostly been watching. I follow a lot of comic artists on Twitter, and I saw this Tweet which I thought it was interesting because I hadn’t realized how many comic artists are into collecting OA themselves. I guess when we buy OA from current artists, we’re funding their OA collecting too! It makes sense that they appreciate comic art as artists themselves. I wonder if there are many comic artists on this board.

 

[comix4fun]

On 9/12/2022 at 8:59 AM, Bronty said:

I thought these two make-an-offers made for an interesting contrast.

One issue too late.. wolverine... $3500

One issue too late.. moon knight... $25,000

On what planet, scarcity issues notwithstanding, does that make sense?     I know both of the offers were rejected but the original auctions on both showed the same disparity and weren't that long ago.

 

The Incredible Hulk #182 (Marvel, 1974) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages....	$1,440.00	Jun 17 2018	$3,570	Rejected	Aug 31 2022	Make Offer to Owner
	Werewolf by Night #33 (Marvel, 1975) CGC NM/MT 9.8 White pages....	$13,200.00	Sep 12 2021	$25,500	Rejected	Aug 31 2022

Likely it's purely scarcity, availability and supply. I'll use GPA stats for both so that it is apples to apples and there are copies sold outside their sphere of knowledge it's consistent with sources excluded. 

WWBN 33 has always been a tough book NM and above because of the black edges to the cover showing everything. The census bears that out. 9 copies in 9.8. And in terms of availability only 3 different slabbed copies (by serial number) have come to market a total of 4 times in the last 13 years.

Hulk 182, conversely, has 53 copies in this grade and there have been 40 copies during that a same 13 year span that have sold. 

You'd likely be able to find a Hulk 182 being auctioned or sold in 9.8 a few times a year but with WWBN 33 we went 11 years with 0 copies recorded sold before 2020 registered a sale. 

10x the amount of availability and sales between the two and a 7x spread between recent offers. So, even there we see a little Wolverine tax to account for desirability. 

[comix4fun]

If you wanna get a migraine, make sense of these results. 

November 2021 $1440 for X-factor 61 page 8

 

September 2022 $33,600 for X-factor 61 page 10

 

For anyone doing the math at home it seems the "Wolverine Boom Boom in the Champagne Room" Tax is a 23X+ multiplier.
Obviously a page that would generate more interest and bidding and sell for more but...Aye Carumba. 

 

[jjonahjameson11]

We've discussed this during previous HA auction threads, and earlier in this very thread, but the sheer number of lots that went for multiples of 4x, 5x, 6x and beyond once live bidding started, has never been so prevalent.  This statement is particularly true for the Sunday auction...stuff that sat around $1.5K - $4K took off like crazy!

Bidding behaviour has changed so much in such a short time that its almost impossible to predict what a piece will go for these days. 

[RBerman]

I won one by accidentally having an extra zero on my original bid weeks ago. Oops!

[Sideshow Bob]

On 9/12/2022 at 11:42 AM, RBerman said:

I won one by accidentally having an extra zero on my original bid weeks ago. Oops!

That's the kind of winning strategy we need to hear more about!