The Unofficial Underground Comix thread... 14 14

[rjpb]

Nifty!

[Detroit MIke]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

How about some interior shots or the back cover?

[50 Cent #II (1st)]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

Definitely Underground related. Very rare item, congrats. Is there a link to what you paid? I know the seller lives not too far from me. People can check out all 3 issues for less, they were reprinted by Jay Lynch in a limited numbered set that usually goes for around $100.

 

EDIT: Found it, $3,900. A rare item for sure that was hand bound by Charles and Robert.

Edited August 8, 2010 by 50 Cent #II (1st)

[Doohickamabob]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

Wow, that is amazing! How many copies do you suppose are out there? Three?

 

I suppose you already know this, but the cover is based on a panel Wally Wood did for the story "V-Vampires!" in Mad Comics #3.

 

[welcomebackpotter]

Wow, that is amazing! How many copies do you suppose are out there? Three?

 

I suppose you already know this, but the cover is based on a panel Wally Wood did for the story "V-Vampires!" in Mad Comics #3.

 

I read that 300 copies were made. Half were sold and the rest were burned by Robert. I don't know how many copies of #2 have survived, but it has been estimated that only 20 copies of Foo #1 exist.

[dupont2005]

That is actually many more copies than I would have expected. That documentary about Crumb showed a little bit of his and his brothers childhood work. They had great talent at an early age. The cover of that book is great!

[Prince Namor]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

Holy Sheee-ite! That is as cool as it gets!!!

[thillaj]

Welcomebackpotter -

 

Hope you enjoy this rare item - it's the only one I've ever seen. Picked it up from someone who was selling a fanzine collection in the SF area about 5 years old. Who knows, maybe it got there by Robert during the days??

 

Thanx,

Alan

[welcomebackpotter]

Welcomebackpotter -

 

Hope you enjoy this rare item - it's the only one I've ever seen. Picked it up from someone who was selling a fanzine collection in the SF area about 5 years old. Who knows, maybe it got there by Robert during the days??

 

Thanx,

Alan

 

I will enjoy it.

[the blob]

Just curious, what makes something "underground"? I mean, the apexnovelty stuff is pretty obvious, sure, I guess, but Kitchen Sink stuff, particularly after KS had been around for a while, does that count?

 

Anyway, keep them coming, the underground stuff really helps make the 70's and early 80's collecting a little more interesting as there is so much stuff I've never seen before. problem is, i have no idea what i should be paying as I'm guessing fogel's #s are just as imaginary as overstreet's?

[MedicAR]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

NOT Underground related. You paid too much! It can't be worth more than $5, maybe $10 at most. Send it to me and I will destroy it properly to end your otherwise eternal shame.

 

 

 

 

Jealousy makes me type weird things.

[the blob]

Just curious, what makes something "underground"? I mean, the apexnovelty stuff is pretty obvious, sure, I guess, but Kitchen Sink stuff, particularly after KS had been around for a while, does that count?

 

Anyway, keep them coming, the underground stuff really helps make the 70's and early 80's collecting a little more interesting as there is so much stuff I've never seen before. problem is, i have no idea what i should be paying as I'm guessing fogel's #s are just as imaginary as overstreet's?

 

When does "underground" end? Has it ended? Is something someone cranks out 500 copies of and tries to spread around considered an underground? Is a self-published Cerebrus or TNMT an undergound or an indie? Cursed Pirate Girl? Stuff of Legends seemed to be in most comic shops, so hardly underground. Is being distributed by Diamond something that will make it "not" an underground. Or is "underground" dead as of the last gasps of this "genre" in the early 80's? Do we just call them "alternative" comics now? Obviously a CCA approval kills it, but when was the last time comics had those?

 

[rjpb]

Just curious, what makes something "underground"? I mean, the apexnovelty stuff is pretty obvious, sure, I guess, but Kitchen Sink stuff, particularly after KS had been around for a while, does that count?

 

Anyway, keep them coming, the underground stuff really helps make the 70's and early 80's collecting a little more interesting as there is so much stuff I've never seen before. problem is, i have no idea what i should be paying as I'm guessing fogel's #s are just as imaginary as overstreet's?

 

When does "underground" end? Has it ended? Is something someone cranks out 500 copies of and tries to spread around considered an underground? Is a self-published Cerebrus or TNMT an undergound or an indie? Cursed Pirate Girl? Stuff of Legends seemed to be in most comic shops, so hardly underground. Is being distributed by Diamond something that will make it "not" an underground. Or is "underground" dead as of the last gasps of this "genre" in the early 80's? Do we just call them "alternative" comics now? Obviously a CCA approval kills it, but when was the last time comics had those?

 

While "alternative comics" covers more than modern undergrounds - The term has pretty much rendered "underground" obsolete. You can take the narrow view - that only comics published in the late sixties through the seventies with a counter culture view and distributed outside the traditional channels are true undergrounds - or a broader view that might include Tijuana Bibles, early fanzines by UG pioneers, Help! Magazine, Wonder-Warthog appearances in college humor and hot-rod magazines, prozines like Witzend, recent graphic novels by creators associated with the heyday of undergrounds, the "new wave" comics of the early 80's, mini-comics, porno comics, autobiographical comics, many self-published comics and most new material put out by companies like Fantagraphics and D & Q.

 

Even "alternative" doesn't have easily defined parameters - how does one define Peter Bagge's work for Marvel, DC's Bizarro hardback anthologies, or the more offbeat books put out by a relatively mainstream company like Image?

[the blob]

yup, hard to be underground when even a 500 copy comic probably has a website associated with it

[welcomebackpotter]

I just won this in the August Heritage auction. I don't know if this would qualify as an underground comix. Robert Crumb and his brother Charles made this when they were kids.

Foo #2

 

 

NOT Underground related. You paid too much! It can't be worth more than $5, maybe $10 at most. Send it to me and I will destroy it properly to end your otherwise eternal shame.

 

 

 

 

Jealousy makes me type weird things.

 

I finally received it today. My birthday present to myself.

[50 Cent #II (1st)]

Just curious, what makes something "underground"? I mean, the apexnovelty stuff is pretty obvious, sure, I guess, but Kitchen Sink stuff, particularly after KS had been around for a while, does that count?

 

Anyway, keep them coming, the underground stuff really helps make the 70's and early 80's collecting a little more interesting as there is so much stuff I've never seen before. problem is, i have no idea what i should be paying as I'm guessing fogel's #s are just as imaginary as overstreet's?

 

Some people, myself included, consider the end of the Underground Comix era around 1976 after the last issues of Comix Book (#5) and Arcade (#7 / Fall 1975), and begins with early 1968 with the release of Zap Comix #1 (there is also an earlier time of Underground Comix that begins around 1962 with the first appearance of Wonder Wart-Hog in Bacchanal #1 and 2 that I guess could be referred to as Early Underground Comix). It was followed by the Newave Comix era started by Raw #1 (1980). That means there's about a 4 year peroid in between that's really a gray undefined time that I refer to as Post Underground Comix (or Pre Newave Comix).

[the blob]

Well, here's the entirety of my vintage underground collection. I included some backs because those are as fun as the fronts. Nothing particularly hard to find in here. I'm at a cross-roads as to whether to continue picking this sort of stuff up from time to time or whether it's going to wind up like my pulp "collection" where I bought solely based on coolness of cover, authors inside and cheapness and eventually lost interest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EggsAckley]

It's a magazine, it's a 9.8 (lousy scan), it's an underground, it's signature series, it's a price guide in plastic.

 

 

[Detroit MIke]

I'm still disappointed that, at the $16.95 cover price, this was a magazine and it didn't have a thicker cover stock.

[oldmilwaukee6er]

It's a magazine, it's a 9.8 (lousy scan), it's an underground, it's signature series, it's a price guide in plastic.

 

 

 

holy sheeeeite muslim! my name is on the CGC label.

how strange that!?