Are prices still climbing or have they eased up a bit??? 43 43

[William-James88]

I actually have been buying again so fir what I was looking for, prices went down.

[William-James88]

On 6/7/2021 at 7:53 PM, Wolverinex said:

Yes, prices are dropping on a lot of the books I'm watching... we peaked.  Hope you all sold what you wanted to get rid off.

I didn't

I scheduled what I was unloading for the MCS July premier auction.

[WolverineX]

3 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

I actually have been buying again so fir what I was looking for, prices went down.

Good idea.  Buy as it goes down

[RCheli]

The rapid increase in pricing is strange to me because it's coming from both within the hobby and outside of it. The prices for the high-dollar Silver Age/Bronze Age keys seem to be coming from outside the hobby. These buyers have no real interest in the comics and characters and see these books as purely a good short- and long-term investment. (I don't necessarily think they are at the current price point, but whatever.) This is how we went from an AF #15 in 3.0 going from $12k to $30k seemingly overnight.

However, the same can't be said for lower-priced books and those that are pure speculation (movie appearances especially). Those books are almost all from within the hobby. A guy looking to invest good money doesn't give two poops about a 9.8 copy of the first appearance of John Walker -- that's all driven from comic collectors. We can blame speculators or flippers or whoever you want, but it's coming from within fandom, not outside of it. 

It's worrying to me how easily the pricing can be manipulated, but I don't think there's anything that can be done until people start getting burned. Who knows when that will happen.

[William-James88]

9 minutes ago, RCheli said:

 

It's worrying to me how easily the pricing can be manipulated, but I don't think there's anything that can be done until people start getting burned. Who knows when that will happen.

For what you are referring to it depends the character. Black mask and the modern Batgirl were hot books last year but they died down (that Batgirl book dropped big time). Ironfist had a crazy drop a few years back too and first Electra has drastic variations. These books with a ton of supply tend to do that since demand is fickle. 

The reason we are seeing this more  now is because Marvel has gone through their main characters and is now getting characters from more modern eras and aggressively so. So we end up with more potential keys from eras with way more supply. This is nothing compared to what we will see when they start playing with the x-men.

[RCheli]

6 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

The reason we are seeing this more  now is because Marvel has gone through their main characters and is now getting characters from more modern eras and aggressively so. So we end up with more potential keys from eras with way more supply. This is nothing compared to what we will see when they start playing with the x-men.

I'm not sure I agree with that. While more B-level characters are being introduced into movies/TV, the same characters who have been around in other media for a decade are also seeing huge bumps. Scarlet Witch has been in the MCU since the second Avengers, but it wasn't until this huge spike in prices did we see X-Men #4 go ballistic.

[William-James88]

8 hours ago, RCheli said:

I'm not sure I agree with that. While more B-level characters are being introduced into movies/TV, the same characters who have been around in other media for a decade are also seeing huge bumps. Scarlet Witch has been in the MCU since the second Avengers, but it wasn't until this huge spike in prices did we see X-Men #4 go ballistic.

Why are we comparing apples to oranges all of a sudden. I was pretty clear in saying that my statement was mainly for the new ones being introduced, going off of the example of US Agent given earlier, and also about moderns since this is about cases where supply is no longer much of an issue. With Silver Age, like X-men 4, you have the added factor of scarcity, especially in higher grades, so I'm not talking about those kinds of  books.

Edited June 14, 2021 by William-James88

[WolverineX]

29 minutes ago, William-James88 said:

For what you are referring to it depends the character. Black mask and the modern Batgirl were hot books last year but they died down (that Batgirl book dropped big time). Ironfist had a crazy drop a few years back too and first Electra has drastic variations. These books with a ton of supply tend to do that since demand is fickle. 

The reason we are seeing this more  now is because Marvel has gone through their main characters and is now getting characters from more modern eras and aggressively so. So we end up with more potential keys from eras with way more supply. This is nothing compared to what we will see when they start playing with the x-men.

I will say tec 369 has been strong.  I was going to try to upgrade my copy but am getting out priced still. Hope that corrects.  

[William-James88]

8 hours ago, Wolverinex said:

I will say tec 369 has been strong.  I was going to try to upgrade my copy but am getting out priced still. Hope that corrects.  

359 is super strong, I don't think it will come down. I was referring to the modern Batgirl, Batman 567. My whole quote was about the possible effects of bringing this craziness to moderns. Also why I am not talking of Scarlet Witch or any other silver age book.

Edited June 14, 2021 by William-James88

[solm4st3r]

4 hours ago, William-James88 said:

369 is super strong, I don't think it will come down. I was referring to the modern Batgirl, Batman 567. My whole quote was about the possible effects of bringing this craziness to moderns. Also why I am not talking of Scarlet Witch or any other silver age book.

359**

[jjonahjameson11]

Well, the Marvel Spotlight 5 cgc 9.8 at HA currently is at $96K...that's gotta be some kind of record for a 9.8 Bronze Age book.  

[THE_BEYONDER]

2 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Well, the Marvel Spotlight 5 cgc 9.8 at HA currently is at $96K...that's gotta be some kind of record for a 9.8 Bronze Age book.  

I have a feeling this sale will ultimately set a new record for taking a bath on a book. 

[Vince G]

1 hour ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

I have a feeling this sale will ultimately set a new record for taking a bath on a book. 

Damn, is the pull of having the highest graded copy of a book that strong?  I could see it for a key GA book, but a bronze? 

[jjonahjameson11]

5 minutes ago, Vince G said:

Damn, is the pull of having the highest graded copy of a book that strong?  I could see it for a key GA book, but a bronze? 

One of only four in 9.8...none higher.

Compare it to GS Xmen 1 (195 in 9.8), FF 48 (39 in 9.8), ASM 129 (146 in 9.8), Hulk 180 (50 in 9.8), hulk 181 (128 in 9.8 or higher), Silver Surfer 4 (24 in 9.8), TOD 10 (48 in 9.8 or higher), etc.

[Vince G]

3 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

One of only four in 9.8...none higher.

Compare it to GS Xmen 1 (195 in 9.8), FF 48 (39 in 9.8), ASM 129 (146 in 9.8), Hulk 180 (50 in 9.8), hulk 181 (128 in 9.8 or higher), Silver Surfer 4 (24 in 9.8), TOD 10 (48 in 9.8 or higher), etc.

What would be interesting to see would be the number of incoming subs of spotlight 5s from this point forward.  

[jjonahjameson11]

51 minutes ago, Vince G said:

What would be interesting to see would be the number of incoming subs of spotlight 5s from this point forward.  

I think the bulk of them would have been submitted already due to previous demand and movie hype, but I can certainly see the sale of this 9.8 resulting in a lot of CPR's or just plain ol' regrade attempts.

[BigLeagueCHEW]

On 6/14/2021 at 12:10 PM, jjonahjameson11 said:

I think the bulk of them would have been submitted already due to previous demand and movie hype, but I can certainly see the sale of this 9.8 resulting in a lot of CPR's or just plain ol' regrade attempts.

150K now. King of Bronze Age? 

 

[InfantTerrible]

that's not even a good copy, that white spine is an eyesore

[Motor City Rob]

3 hours ago, BigLeagueCHEW said:

150K now. King of Bronze Age? 

 

This book in 9.8 has always been way more valuable than Hulk 181. Last sale of Marvel Spotlight #5 9.8 was back in 2016 for $48k. Hulk #181 9.8 sold for $13k back then. So, MS5 is 3 to 4 times more valuable. Fast forward to today, last 181 9.8 sold for $48k, so $150k for MS5 is right on track...but I agree there is still sticker shock!

[BigLeagueCHEW]

13 minutes ago, InfantTerrible said:

that's not even a good copy, that white spine is an eyesore

Can’t really choose with 4 at 9.8