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[Dr. Balls]

On 8/12/2022 at 11:27 AM, DrunkWooky said:

"Zymotica[ ]is the name of the actetate cover intended to be created for Clayton Craine's Ghost Rider #1. for this weekend's Boston Fan Expo, the "Zymotica Vs" variant cover. Might that suggest Black Flag Comics were intending to use their existing retailer exclusive Clayton Crain Ghost Rider cover approved by Marvel, to promote their own intellectual property, created by Clayton Crain, with a bit of acetate on the cover? Might we get Zymotica Vs Ghost Rider? You could see how Marvel Comics might have a problem with that more than the "In God We Intrust" cover."

Oh brother - that entire concept sounds like a Chinese knockoff you’d buy on the Subway platform. I mean, he’s be better off selling that idea next to some bootleg DVDs on a black tablecloth.

[Sigur Ros]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:34 PM, Gonzimodo said:

Have there been previous topics that generated 123 pages (and counting) of discussion this quickly before?  I know there have been some crazy scandals here over the years, but I've never gotten to watch one in real time like this.

This one is multi-layered. 

So much to discuss! 

[Black_Adam]

On 8/12/2022 at 10:02 AM, CGC Mike said:

We feel it is important to provide transparency on how CGC arrived at our method of certifying Clayton Crain’s Ultimate Fallout comics with the attached acetate covers. For us, this was an unprecedented item to grade. After Mr. Crain spoke with us prior to C2E2, the rules we applied to his books:

 

• The additional cover had to be created by an established artist in the industry.
• The comic to which the cover was attached had to contain a cover by that same artist.
• A copy of the comic with the attached cover had to be submitted to us for inspection prior to certifying any copies.

 

Given the recent circumstances, we have made adjustments to the labeling originally used for the Ultimate Fallout exhibiting the acetate cover. Going forward, any copies submitted to CGC will display in the label text: "In God We Intrust" Acetate Artist Cover attached with 2 staples after manufacturing. The books will still be allowed to receive a Universal label.

 

This will also apply to Mr. Crain’s forthcoming copies of Ghost Rider #1 and Deadpool Nerdy 30 #1 that contain an acetate cover.  

 

 

How come there is no like button on this post by @CGC Mike 

[Bob Sacamano]

On 8/12/2022 at 12:33 PM, jcjames said:

 

So... using these new, ad-hoc "rules" -

Any time anyone submits a CGC SS book for an artist-signing whereby, the artist in the process of "producing" this signed copy, puts a fingerprint, a crease, a bend or an extra pair of staples in the book... all those damages will now be overlooked during grading because those modifications were "created by an established artist in the industry" and the extra damage was to "a cover by the same artist". 

Great to know.

 

 

 

Cheeto-stain variant.

[JC25427N]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:36 PM, Black_Adam said:

How come there is no like button on this post by @CGC Mike 

None of Mike's posts can be reacted to

Edited August 12, 2022 by JC25427N

[A. Schaeffer]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:33 PM, JC25427N said:

I mean come on thats an easy bet, theres a do you pooh cover for everything. The amber turd cover was hilarious 

ok fine

somewhere right now someone at dynamite is planning out 46 plastic flag variants

[CGC Mike]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:36 PM, Black_Adam said:

How come there is no like button on this post by @CGC Mike 

I have the reaction feature for my posts turned off.  

[Atomic Ponkie]

On 8/12/2022 at 9:54 AM, AmazingComics413 said:

Im excired to see what happens ngl

[TTony]

On 8/11/2022 at 7:22 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

Maybe I could crowdfund a flight & ticket to the show

I bet you could fund it with an OnlyFans showing you cutting in line...

[Iceman399]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:36 PM, Black_Adam said:

How come there is no like button on this post by @CGC Mike 

It's so that he has less than 47 notifications in 4 hours

[Bob Sacamano]

Clayton Crain and Black Flag seem to concoct the mother of all bad ideas when they get together.  Next thing you know their fourth book will feature a Muhammad acetate cover.

[williamblood]

@CGC Mikeif these are the rules used to grade those books, why did it take nearly 6 days to post them here?

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 8/12/2022 at 12:19 PM, Buzzetta said:

It's still a bootleg comic book.   I can have an artist that worked on a book create a 1:1 variant by doing something similar this fall.  

 

[Buzzetta]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:42 PM, CheddarBoi 24/7 said:

Thank you for putting this non-issue to bed  no more .

 

[Sigur Ros]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:44 PM, williamblood said:

@CGC Mikeif these are the rules used to grade those books, why did it take nearly 6 days to post them here?

Because they just came up with them. 

[A. Schaeffer]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:43 PM, Bob Sacamano said:

Clayton Crain and Black Flag seem to concoct the mother of all bad ideas when they get together.  Next thing you know their fourth book will feature a Muhammad acetate cover.

Stapling new things to old things to sell backstock is a pretty solid tactic though

[Buzzetta]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:46 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

[chrisco37]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:35 PM, manetteska said:

1. I'm not buying these 3 rules were actually talked about prior to this week, otherwise this post would have been created much earlier than today.

2. Ignoring the timing of these rules, it sounds like instead of applying the regular CGC grading standards to a book with items added after manufacturing, an "established artist" approached CGC, asked for a favor, and CGC obliged.

Yep.  

[Bob Sacamano]

On 8/12/2022 at 12:37 PM, CGC Mike said:

I have the reaction feature for my posts turned off.  

Mike’s thoughts, “finally something I can reply to!”

[CGC Mike]

To those that have asked me questions regarding these books, I am sorry but I cannot answer any of them.