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So what happens if an ebay seller fully insures the book and uses signature confirmation, and then the lazy postman just drops it off without ever obtaining a signature?

To my experience, if the lazy postman doesn't get an authorized signature, they either have to leave the "we missed you" door tag or they just forge your signature themselves. 

So are you saying that the buyer said he never got the book, even though someone signed for the package?  - Wouldn't the post office be at fault for not actually obtaining a signature?  Or is it because the post office has no way of telling if the lazy postman forged the recipient's signature?

 

I just signed up for the mismanaged payments and I'm reluctant to sell through them after reading so many horror stories with feebay.  Their outsourced "customer service" agents are about as effective as talking to the back of your hand...

I have bought some very high dollar books $7500 + on feebay, and the sellers have always used registered mail with adult signature required.  Would this help to avoid all the scammers who claim item not received?

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29 minutes ago, Darkseid of the Moon said:

So what happens if an ebay seller fully insures the book and uses signature confirmation, and then the lazy postman just drops it off without ever obtaining a signature?

To my experience, if the lazy postman doesn't get an authorized signature, they either have to leave the "we missed you" door tag or they just forge your signature themselves. 

So are you saying that the buyer said he never got the book, even though someone signed for the package?  - Wouldn't the post office be at fault for not actually obtaining a signature?  Or is it because the post office has no way of telling if the lazy postman forged the recipient's signature?

 

I just signed up for the mismanaged payments and I'm reluctant to sell through them after reading so many horror stories with feebay.  Their outsourced "customer service" agents are about as effective as talking to the back of your hand...

I have bought some very high dollar books $7500 + on feebay, and the sellers have always used registered mail with adult signature required.  Would this help to avoid all the scammers who claim item not received?

In theory, yes, signature confirmation and registered mail SHOULD protect the sellers from scammers.  But the bigger problem with eBay is their itchy trigger finger to revoke funds from sellers while the process plays itself out.  And then you're also counting on the faceless resolution department, conveniently located in Bangladesh, to rule in your favor and give you your money back.  And putting the scammers aside, there's always the risk that the buyer will "change his mind" and force a return on you days, weeks, even months later.

Its a whole bunch of heartburn I'd rather live without.  

Compare that to ComicLink (or any other big time dealer).  Buyer proclaims, "I want a return!"  ComicLink says "Too bad."  Buyer decides he didn't receive the book.  ComicLink introduces them to their proof of delivery...and their lawyer(s) if need be.

I choose to sell with the folks I know will stand behind me if the situation decides to go sideways.

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Best one I have had for awhile. 

Tano2030

This buyer purchases Batman Fortnight 1 on Monday.
Immediately after buying emails me and ask me to open the 
book and give him the digital code. 

I explain to him that the book is sealed and I will not open a 
sealed book to give the code it will ship next day. (I am fully
aware that if I gave him the code he would have filed on me.)

So Wed I ship the book. I get another email about giving him
the code and explain as a seller I cant do that and the book is on
its way. 

Today I get a Payment dispute open by buyer. Ebay asked for 
DC number I send it and its at the evidence stage. 

I wish there was someway I could get those emails put in as well. 
 

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On 6/12/2021 at 12:28 PM, fastballspecial said:

Best one I have had for awhile. 

Tano2030

This buyer purchases Batman Fortnight 1 on Monday.
Immediately after buying emails me and ask me to open the 
book and give him the digital code. 

I explain to him that the book is sealed and I will not open a 
sealed book to give the code it will ship next day. (I am fully
aware that if I gave him the code he would have filed on me.)

So Wed I ship the book. I get another email about giving him
the code and explain as a seller I cant do that and the book is on
its way. 

Today I get a Payment dispute open by buyer. Ebay asked for 
DC number I send it and its at the evidence stage. 

I wish there was someway I could get those emails put in as well. 
 

If they were sent through ebays messaging system they have access to those and will review them. 

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2 hours ago, Corona smith said:
On 6/12/2021 at 11:28 AM, fastballspecial said:

Best one I have had for awhile. 

Tano2030

This buyer purchases Batman Fortnight 1 on Monday.
Immediately after buying emails me and ask me to open the 
book and give him the digital code. 

I explain to him that the book is sealed and I will not open a 
sealed book to give the code it will ship next day. (I am fully
aware that if I gave him the code he would have filed on me.)

So Wed I ship the book. I get another email about giving him
the code and explain as a seller I cant do that and the book is on
its way. 

Today I get a Payment dispute open by buyer. Ebay asked for 
DC number I send it and its at the evidence stage. 

I wish there was someway I could get those emails put in as well. 
 

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If they were sent through ebays messaging system they have access to those and will review them. 

I was hoping they would because I couldn't add them and I wanted too.

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Longtime lurker, but finally decided to join the boards. 

Wanted to add to the Ebay list:

myso_93 - Bid on several of my books, and then didnt pay

chricamach48 - Bid and then didnt pay

herrlejeff1 - Did not read description and paid for the book. Never asked any questions or requested any more pics. On receiving the book, requested a return because he 'didnt like it'. Said the book was presented as 'high grade', even though I pointed out the flaws with pics, said it was probably in 'good' condition, and never stated that it was high grade. Said it 'smelled' ??? I was considering offering a discount, but after questioning him one time, he started insulting me, threatening to affect my sales. I then refused his return, and he mentioned something about 'supporting Trump' and 'building the wall' ??? , and then negged me. Another seller, on seeing my feedback rebuttal, then contacted me and mentioned a similar experience, but gave in to him to avoid him.

Had several other bad experiences, but those were several years ago.

The last year and this year have been good for small sellers like me. But in the last two months, I have had several non-payments and request for refunds, adjustment, perceived damage, due to their own handling (dropping the book, etc., not even due to mail shipping.). Very discouraging !

I know that all of us would like to maintain that perfect 100% seller rating, BUT I refuse to give in to BS when its so apparent, even at the cost of a negative feedback. I of course, do address my concerns in the rebuttal feedback, and hope that other serious buyers review this before paying attention to the feedback score. I also report and contest all claims when I see BS. While I try to be fair, and am open to the possibility of damage due to mailing, or something glaring that I missed, etc., I do contest and challenge any request that is BS, and take a stand, even at risk to my Ebay score. 

While the above is my opinion/approach, I hope other sellers would atleast report the bad Ebayers to Ebay, here, etc., so that they (the BAD Ebayers) dont get away with their bad practices, and other sellers can be aware of them. Turning a blind eye to these folks, and even rewarding them (refunds, returns, etc. to avoid the negative feedback threat, to avoid the problem, etc.), sends the message that their tactics work, and they WILL try it again. Many of these folks have a 100% rating, as Ebay does not allow negative feedback for the buyer. At the very least, report them to Ebay, and contest the activity if you know it to be bad, so that they are on notice, and on record. For non-payers, let a non-payment strike be recorded with Ebay, so that there is a record of this. Turning a blind eye to these bad Ebayers, and empowering their bad behavior just hurts the whole comic community.

Apologize that my first post is a rant, and for being a newbie lecturing to the experienced sellers here. Hopefully this helps someone, as I have benefitted greatly from this site and others. (I have posted the same info on other sites too !) 

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On 5/14/2021 at 9:48 PM, jsilverjanet said:

Correct

and @NewWorldOrderi understand the process and did that exactly. The issue I have is how will I be able to identify these deadbeats in the future since I used buyers with 3 NPB in their history to eliminate them from bidding on my auctions (this was very effective)

That option is no longer at play with the elimination of NPB

 

I believe you can still do this under buyer requirements.

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7 hours ago, Rich_Henn said:

Please feel free to block this guy. 

Won an item last night on eBay and then immediately messages me to let me know he has no intention on paying.

patawara-67

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Are these items being bought by deadbeat buyers hot items? If so, I wonder if they think that by buying and not paying that they're somehow manipulating the market in terms of "recent sales" on eBay? I wish eBay could label past unpaid sales as "unpaid" or something like that in the recent sales listings or at least remove them (not sure if they do).

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On 5/5/2021 at 12:33 PM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Socialists.

You have not the background history of the miscreants here versus CAL to understand.

CAL who sold some OXY stock and now is looking to buy once more....

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Just a head's up to the community about an an ebay seller with questionable ethics.

I purchased this book from the seller (ebay username = jokla8196) on the Myslabs platform for $1150 on 6/15 and paid.  On 6/22, had heard nothing so I reached out to seller via email provided in their Myslabs profile.  On 6/26, still nothing so I reached out to Myslabs support, who reached out to seller.  Seller refunded my money later that day, saying he had forgotten the book was on Myslabs and that he "sold it on eBay".  In fact, he listed it in a 10-day auction on 6/21, and it now has 2 days remaining.

 

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Just had a situation with this buyer,  jc9982_cmf8bz

Asked for a discount, got it, then returned the item claiming the case wasn’t properly sealed at the top, was scuffed (as seen on the photos), has Newton rings (it doesn’t). Then acted high and mighty and just superior afterwards.

Turns out they also have a couple of other strikes against them from other sellers. 

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57 minutes ago, Robert_L said:

Just had a situation with this buyer,  jc9982_cmf8bz

Asked for a discount, got it, then returned the item claiming the case wasn’t properly sealed at the top, was scuffed (as seen on the photos), has Newton rings (it doesn’t). Then acted high and mighty and just superior afterwards.

Turns out they also have a couple of other strikes against them from other sellers. 

Surprise, surprise...the superior, condescending types that pop up every now and then get put on the list right away. 

As far as the NRs, I used to have a canned statement about them and a link to the CGC page about it. I removed that statement from my posts because I have not had any rings on my graded books in well over a year. Never had any complaints either even though some of my cases did have the effect. Just lucky not to have had anyone who was not properly informed complain about the issue.

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My most recent situation is with buyer:

alexri8187

Auction was for an ASM 55 Second Print Virgin 1:50 9.8 and this low feedback buyer won at $185 minus buyer paid shipping. Same 'ol story - I send an invoice, no response. Ebay sends a reminder, no response. At the end of day two I send a message for them to have the courtesy to let me know about when they plan on completing the sale, no response. Day three, sent another message (a bit more snippy admittedly) that most buyers pay shortly after an auction ends, and if not it is only appropriate to contact the seller and give them an update on when to expect payment. In this message I also stated I was going to cancel the order as soon as the fourth day timer hits zero. Crickets only of course....so this sale was cancelled.

For those that don't know, now ebay gives four days for payment to be made and you can cancel the order if payment is not made right away once time is up. No more unpaid item cases to open which used to drag on at times.

Happy Fourth all and don't let this one bid or buy on your site. 

 

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7 minutes ago, CHASEnBLUE said:

 

Surprise, surprise...the superior, condescending types that pop up every now and then get put on the list right away. 

As far as the NRs, I used to have a canned statement about them and a link to the CGC page about it. I removed that statement from my posts because I have not had any rings on my graded books in well over a year. Never had any complaints either even though some of my cases did have the effect. Just lucky not to have had anyone who was not properly informed complain about the issue.

I keep an eye out for the thread in the announcement page too... or any new posts. 

Had a buyer ask about them, I mentioned a few fixes like compressed air from that thread, he left positive feedback. I want to make buyers feel better or whole but the situation sometimes is out of my control. 

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Buyer stated I did misled them with this listing, opened a case with eBay and is returning the item.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124649977848

SANDMAN #1 Essential, Vertigo, NEWSSTAND Neil Gaiman, 1996, Preludes Nocturnes

buyer's name is below

poppysattic
 
 

History

Jul 3
A return request initiated
Jul 3
Case opened
Message
Stated in listing as original, it is not. I hold this seller in contempt.
Jul 3
The buyer sent you a message
Message
You state in your item description "original" Your full of .
Jun 27
You sent a message
Message
The description and listing match, buyers mistake, item is what I sold and described accurately
Jun 24
You sent a message
Message
Did you think this was the original first print version of the comic? It clearly says essential vertigo on listing and it’s clearly visible on the picture
Jun 24
The buyer requested a return
Message
This is a facsimile edition, not a # 1 edition as stated in listing. Also does not say in listing that returns are not accepted. I'll pay to ship it back, but this book is not worth the price paid, and I feel misled.
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6 hours ago, jsilverjanet said:

Buyer stated I did misled them with this listing, opened a case with eBay and is returning the item.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124649977848

SANDMAN #1 Essential, Vertigo, NEWSSTAND Neil Gaiman, 1996, Preludes Nocturnes

buyer's name is below

poppysattic
 
 

History

Jul 3
A return request initiated
Jul 3
Case opened
Message
Stated in listing as original, it is not. I hold this seller in contempt.
Jul 3
The buyer sent you a message
Message
You state in your item description "original" Your full of .
Jun 27
You sent a message
Message
The description and listing match, buyers mistake, item is what I sold and described accurately
Jun 24
You sent a message
Message
Did you think this was the original first print version of the comic? It clearly says essential vertigo on listing and it’s clearly visible on the picture
Jun 24
The buyer requested a return
Message
This is a facsimile edition, not a # 1 edition as stated in listing. Also does not say in listing that returns are not accepted. I'll pay to ship it back, but this book is not worth the price paid, and I feel misled.

Must be a noob or plain old dumb@$$ to not know which Sandman #1 is which. I worry that if it's true that the comic collectible market has boomed these past 12-18 months due to new entrants to the hobby, then this kind of ignorant purchases and subsequent headaches to sellers is just the beginning. 

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