Ecclectica Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 5:00 AM, Microchip said: Even the newb's must wisen up quickly There's no way the reputation for these guys 200-300% mark-up isn't common knowledge in the wider CAF community? Fortunately, they don't try to resell everything they've got at 200-300% mark-up, or the clients would become rare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KirbyCollector Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) On 7/27/2023 at 11:00 PM, Microchip said: There's no way the reputation for these guys 200-300% mark-up isn't common knowledge in the wider CAF community? It takes a while to figure out the landscape. Also, when you watch the show and a dealer presents something which is marked up 100-200%, the other dealer, Bill or someone watching will often comment on "what a deal it is" and sometimes even state it is underpriced. For complete newbies watching, you would think "2 dealers and Bill (or a prominent poster) agree, that price has to be right" and buy -- without realizing Bill, Anthony and Mike are all in financial relationships with each other to their own benefit... or the person who posted is seeking to boost their own OA values... or the person who posted is secretly a huge friend of one of the dealers and gets a far better price on art than you ever will. Figuring out ALL of that takes a long time. Edited July 28, 2023 by KirbyCollector Kryptic1, Ecclectica, WillKrypton and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobrac Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 4:12 PM, Dr. Balls said: I don't know what I think about that Batgirl. I don't want to run it down, but if Dustin Nyguyen sold that for $800...he was very fortunate. Someone outed Mike in the chat for buying a Pat Broderick Conan page for less than $800 (best offer taken on Ebay) and marking it up to $1700. It was awkwardly funny because the guy said he just blurted it out and didn't mean to cause an issue. The SSOC #54 pin-up by Broderick was $550 best offer. Good buy price. Dr. Balls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobrac Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Also, love or hate this thread, congrats on it crossing over 200K views. Impressive. Twanj and Lee B. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Twanj Posted July 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 10:43 AM, lobrac said: Also, love or hate this thread, congrats on it crossing over 200K views. Impressive. What's not to love?! It's a PSA. Transparency is good for almost everyone. comichut, Bill C, Andahaion and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 8:37 AM, lobrac said: The SSOC #54 pin-up by Broderick was $550 best offer. Good buy price. Wow. 3X markup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kryptic1 Posted September 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2023 Dueling Dealers is back with pricing adjusted to current market conditions LOL JK the prices were as wild as ever. WillKrypton, MAR1979, cloud cloddie and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyflow33 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The only time I relate to artists is when a page from my collection underperforms at auction and then ends up on Anthony's site. Plenty of my recent art sold at auction is available for 3x, 4x, or more on dealer sites! Microchip, Lee B. and cloud cloddie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 8:55 AM, KirbyCollector said: It takes a while to figure out the landscape. Also, when you watch the show and a dealer presents something which is marked up 100-200%, the other dealer, Bill or someone watching will often comment on "what a deal it is" and sometimes even state it is underpriced. For complete newbies watching, you would think "2 dealers and Bill (or a prominent poster) agree, that price has to be right" and buy -- without realizing Bill, Anthony and Mike are all in financial relationships with each other to their own benefit... or the person who posted is seeking to boost their own OA values... or the person who posted is secretly a huge friend of one of the dealers and gets a far better price on art than you ever will. Figuring out ALL of that takes a long time. It really shouldn’t take that long. It’s one show, shared production costs, and friendly competitors. And there is no fighting between them that’s worth anything. Since it’s called Dueling Dealers, what I would watch is where a 4th person offers the piece to all three dealers, and the one who bids the highest wins. That should happen sometime after Hell freezes over. Ecclectica, MAR1979 and Twanj 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptic1 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 11:45 PM, Kryptic1 said: Wonder Woman 171 cover sold for $10k at Comic Art Live 11/2022 Now at Panel Page for $22,500 https://www.panelpageart.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=2918 Following up on this since it just sold at Heritage. Nice pricing job by the original seller. Not so much by the later dealer or consignor. vodou, Sean I and cloud cloddie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkurJ Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Heritage in August @ $1620 https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/covers/alex-saviuk-amazing-spider-man-annual-11-variant-cover-original-art-veve-collectibles-2023-/a/322333-48223.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 Now $2250. Could have been worse! https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1958096 cloud cloddie, Sean I and Lee B. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Strange Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 This sold 3 months ago for $26,250…it’s now for sale for 40k. How does something like this appreciate in value so quickly ? Twanj, cloud cloddie, Sean I and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) https://www.ebay.com/itm/126120674884?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=0611b66962774d16bb2d9b8896f09fa8&bu=43186293794&ut=RU&osub=-1~1&crd=20231003034544&segname=11021 ASM #305 p16 Sold at CL a few weeks ago for $27,402 and now on ebay for $38k obo. Do they even have it in hand? edit: my bad, it was a year and 3 weeks ago. Wrong year! Edited October 3, 2023 by Twanj Andahaion, Lee B., Sean I and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyCollector Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 8:58 AM, Dr_Strange said: This sold 3 months ago for $26,250…it’s now for sale for 40k. How does something like this appreciate in value so quickly ? You wave your Albert Moy magic valuation wand over it, say "Bippity boppity boo" and blast it out via email cloud cloddie, Dr_Strange, Twanj and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyCollector Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 9:15 AM, Twanj said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126120674884?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=0611b66962774d16bb2d9b8896f09fa8&bu=43186293794&ut=RU&osub=-1~1&crd=20231003034544&segname=11021 ASM #305 p16 Sold at CL a few weeks ago for $27,402 and now on ebay for $38k obo. Do they even have it in hand? Oops, someone else borrowed Albert's wand Lee B., Twanj and grapeape 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1classics Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 3:15 AM, Twanj said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126120674884?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l1120&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=0611b66962774d16bb2d9b8896f09fa8&bu=43186293794&ut=RU&osub=-1~1&crd=20231003034544&segname=11021 ASM #305 p16 Sold at CL a few weeks ago for $27,402 and now on ebay for $38k obo. Do they even have it in hand? Not quite, this sold roughly a year ago on Clink, I only know cuz I was the underbidder. It was offered privately beforehand for roughly this same current ask, but I don’t think this example counts as a “quick flip”. If you go to their site it’s actually much more reasonable at $32k. I love the bottom panel, but the rest of the page is “eh”, which is the issue… Dr. Balls and Twanj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:56 PM, 1classics said: Not quite, this sold roughly a year ago on Clink, I only know cuz I was the underbidder. It was offered privately beforehand for roughly this same current ask, but I don’t think this example counts as a “quick flip”. If you go to their site it’s actually much more reasonable at $32k. I love the bottom panel, but the rest of the page is “eh”, which is the issue… You are correct. Apparently I still think it's 2022... 1classics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1classics Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 7:29 AM, Twanj said: You are correct. Apparently I still think it's 2022... Yeah sorry to chime in and be a “fact checker” but a “few weeks” to over a year ago doesn’t quite seem like a quick flip… though I do understand in the OA world anything less than 5 years is considered somewhat of a “short term” hold… alxjhnsn and Twanj 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jjonahjameson11 Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 When is a sale not a sale??? This Travis Charest cover was on Albert Moy's site earlier this year for $9K, then it went to Burkey's site where it sat for a while at $12K. It was then auctioned at ComicConnect (while still being listed at Burkey's site until CC asked Burkey to remove it from his site) and sold for $11K last month. Now its back on Burkey's site, but for $11K. Sean I, dirtymartini1, Bill C and 6 others 1 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 2:07 PM, jjonahjameson11 said: When is a sale not a sale??? This Travis Charest cover was on Albert Moy's site earlier this year for $9K, then it went to Burkey's site where it sat for a while at $12K. It was then auctioned at ComicConnect (while still being listed at Burkey's site until CC asked Burkey to remove it from his site) and sold for $11K last month. Now its back on Burkey's site, but for $11K. Yes, I was curious about this too. More than the usual "dealer shuffle." Was this another buyback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
