Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 42 42

[buttock]

How many seconds do you have to look to see that?

[csaag]

On 5/25/2023 at 6:50 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

I get it man.  The way you feel about this is how I feel about sports!

I have always believed 2nd place is the first loser.

When my Eagles lost the SB to the Chiefs.  I said Eagles failed and accomplished nothing.

0-16 is the same to me as losing the SB!

You need to pray more before each game - 

Our Eagles,
who art in Philly,
hallowed be thy game;
when kickoff comes,
thy game is won
at the Linc or the other team’s stadium.
Give us this Sunday our weekly win
and forgive us our turnovers,
as we forgive those who trespass against the line of scrimmage;
and lead us into the end zone,
but deliver us from interceptions.

 

(maybe it could use a little work....)

Go Birds!

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 5/31/2023 at 4:57 PM, Iceman399 said:

FAIL 

[jcjames]

On 5/31/2023 at 1:57 PM, Iceman399 said:

 

Who looks at the back anyway? 

[wombat]

On 5/31/2023 at 4:57 PM, Iceman399 said:

And there it is. Definitive proof that CGC is not looking at every book. Glad we could put that to rest. 

[Sigur Ros]

On 5/31/2023 at 7:55 PM, wombat said:

And there it is. Definitive proof that CGC is not looking at every book. Glad we could put that to rest. 

I think that was clear about 225 pages ago.  ;)

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

[Gaard]

On 5/31/2023 at 7:55 PM, wombat said:

And there it is. Definitive proof that CGC is not looking at every book. Glad we could put that to rest. 

Mike said that they looked at both the front and back for the hours he was watching them. Could they have been told, "Hey, this guy from the boards is coming to observe you. Do everything right. In other words, not the way you usually do things."?

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

Tom is also likely mad.

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

On 6/1/2023 at 4:57 AM, Gaard said:

Mike said that they looked at both the front and back for the hours he was watching them. Could they have been told, "Hey, this guy from the boards is coming to observe you. Do everything right. In other words, not the way you usually do things."?

Perhaps:

[Stefan_W]

Here is the story of the two slabs in the attached photos:

I sent in a reholder submission that included these two - both had scuffing on the back. The reholder was done, and when I checked out the books the same scuffing was there but a bit worse. I phoned CGC and asked whether they change the plastic sleeve on the inside or just change out the case, and the rep assured me that both are changed during a reholder. Fine, I explained what I saw and sent these two back as an ME. While they were sitting in SFG, CGC changed their ME policy so I figured there may be an issue if it is not fixed this time around. I just got the two books back, and when I checked them out - surprise surprise, the exact same issue. It seems unlikely that I would have the exact same issue in the same spots three times in a row so I am guess just the holder was swapped, and this did nothing to fix the book. 

I am a bit annoyed but willing to wait and see what CGC does about it. I paid for the books to be fixed, but if the process will in no way, shape, or form fix the issue with the slabs then I paid for nothing. I get that CGC may not want to cut into the inner sleeve for fear of causing damage to the books leading to a grade reduction. But why take books back that will not be fixed? Plus with the new policy changes I am not even sure what to do about this now. 

Anyway, pics below. Excuse the glare it is really tough to take good pics of this type of issue.

 

 

[Domo Arigato]

"Rest assured....we carefully inspect each and every one that goes through our hands"

 

[Still Only 20¢]

On 6/1/2023 at 12:18 PM, Stefan_W said:

Here is the story of the two slabs in the attached photos:

I sent in a reholder submission that included these two - both had scuffing on the back. The reholder was done, and when I checked out the books the same scuffing was there but a bit worse. I phoned CGC and asked whether they change the plastic sleeve on the inside or just change out the case, and the rep assured me that both are changed during a reholder. Fine, I explained what I saw and sent these two back as an ME. While they were sitting in SFG, CGC changed their ME policy so I figured there may be an issue if it is not fixed this time around. I just got the two books back, and when I checked them out - surprise surprise, the exact same issue. It seems unlikely that I would have the exact same issue in the same spots three times in a row so I am guess just the holder was swapped, and this did nothing to fix the book. 

I am a bit annoyed but willing to wait and see what CGC does about it. I paid for the books to be fixed, but if the process will in no way, shape, or form fix the issue with the slabs then I paid for nothing. I get that CGC may not want to cut into the inner sleeve for fear of causing damage to the books leading to a grade reduction. But why take books back that will not be fixed? Plus with the new policy changes I am not even sure what to do about this now. 

Anyway, pics below. Excuse the glare it is really tough to take good pics of this type of issue.

 

 

 

 

Actually @Stefan_W, I think you captured the scuffing quite well.  The new policy states that Newton Rings are no longer an allowed Mechanical Error, and these are clearly not Newton Rings.  So CGC should accept this as an ME.

I'd try to take pictures of the other slab similar to this one.  If you send them off as an ME, and they come back with the spots in exactly the same places, you may be able to get CGC Mike to intervene.  But you should be prepared to prove that the spots are in the same places before and after.  Good Luck!

[Iconic1s]

On 5/31/2023 at 3:57 PM, Iceman399 said:

CGC… beyond repute??  People can pay tens of thousands of dollars for a grade bump from this company.

This is ABSOLUTE proof CGC does not do QC… at all!

Edited June 2, 2023 by Iconic1s

[Beastfeast]

On 6/1/2023 at 5:35 PM, Iconic1s said:

CGC… beyond repute??  People can pay tens of thousands of dollars for a grade bump from this company.

This is ABSOLUTE proof CGC does not do QC… at all!

No it's not.  It's proof that this particular book didn't go through QC.  Comic book people and hyperbole...name a more iconic duo.  

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 6/1/2023 at 10:36 PM, Beastfeast said:

...name a more iconic duo.  

[Iconic1s]

On 6/1/2023 at 10:36 PM, Beastfeast said:

No it's not.  It's proof that this particular book didn't go through QC.  Comic book people and hyperbole...name a more iconic duo.  

So I guess that QC from the ‘most trusted’ company means spot checking every few books then…

This is a bit different than a small hair, or plastic shard (which is also unacceptable) it’s a huge piece of paper.  Even the shipping guy could have seen this and stopped it from going out (if the company had a culture where they care about customer satisfaction).

I stand behind my statement that they aren’t doing QC… they are slinging books through so fast and just rolling the dice that things work out (for them).

As for a more iconic duo… how about your lips and my …

[THE_BEYONDER]

[Sigur Ros]

On 6/2/2023 at 11:12 AM, Iconic1s said:

 

Some people can read 259 pages about books not being caught by QC and act like it's rare.  

[Beastfeast]

On 6/2/2023 at 8:12 AM, Iconic1s said:

So I guess that QC from the ‘most trusted’ company means spot checking every few books then…

This is a bit different than a small hair, or plastic shard (which is also unacceptable) it’s a huge piece of paper.  Even the shipping guy could have seen this and stopped it from going out (if the company had a culture where they care about customer satisfaction).

I stand behind my statement that they aren’t doing QC… they are slinging books through so fast and just rolling the dice that things work out (for them).

As for a more iconic duo… how about your lips and my …

Having a bad day, dude? Need to talk about it?